Trade Deadline Talk

[Mr. Scot]

A thread for any trade deadline related talk, Panthers or otherwise.

Starting with...

We've seen the first two previously, but the last one is new, and I found it a little...odd. Not sure why Kaye mentions that in this content.

Could be nothing, or click bait, but...

[Proudiddy]

I’ve seen Key mentioned a bit in possibilities for teams looking for edge rush help.  Also, interesting Simmons is also out, bc last I read, he and Ward were the only guys the Titans said were off limits.

[Mr. Scot]

Just saw this from @Panthercougar68

 

[Mr. Scot]

Also, the flipside from Kaye...

 

[UnluckyforSome]

The only action the Panthers should consider is if they are selling, but I doubt any other team would be buying.

The only way we get markedly better is hitting it out of the park in the draft. We need a few of those Morgan-Jenkins-Smith drafts.

[frankw]

"He covets draft picks"

*trades up into the second round for a running back with a torn ACL*

[Proudiddy]

Ravens just traded Jaire Alexander to the Eagles with a pick swap.

[PNW_PantherMan]

Not expecting much from us 

[strato]

11 minutes ago, frankw said:

"He covets draft picks"

*trades up into the second round for a running back with a torn ACL*

Uhh, okay yes that happened. I didn’t like the pick either I am a 3rd or later RB guy. Always. Actually hated the CMC pick too. Hated the Stewart pick. 

No one wants to talk about trading the #39 in that draft and what he did with that. 
Got #52, #155, and the Rams 2025 2nd to boot.
 

The 52 and 155 plus our 142 5th rounder to go up for a Brooks Everyone wants to forget about the 2025 2nd for that Rams trade  which was used to move up for Scourton. 

That Rams trade down was a great deal for us. 
 

 

[frankw]

9 minutes ago, strato said:

Uhh, okay yes that happened. I didn’t like the pick either I am a 3rd or later RB guy. Always. Actually hated the CMC pick too. Hated the Stewart pick. 

No one wants to talk about trading the #39 in that draft and what he did with that. 
Got #52, #155, and the Rams 2025 2nd to boot.
 

The 52 and 155 plus our 142 5th rounder to go up for a Brooks Everyone wants to forget about the 2025 2nd for that Rams trade  which was used to move up for Scourton. 

That Rams trade down was a great deal for us. 
 

 

You guys are just going to have to accept the fact that Dan Morgan is a mid GM best case scenario currently. I used to have people get very belligerent over defending Scott Fitterer too. And that's not hyperbole. People used to go to bat for that guy like he was blood related.

We have a truckload invested in the OL and what do we have to show for it? The whole unit is already banged up including one of our big signings. Even without all that the group has largely taken a step back from last year in pass protection.

Then you get to the QB room and there's only two conclusions you can make about Dan Morgan. Either he deliberately ignored it two years in a row on his own accord or he took orders from Tepper to do so. Either scenario says he's not fit to be an NFL GM.

Edited 9 hours ago by frankw

[strato]

You are too harsh. Owners tell GMs what to do all the time. It doesn’t make someone “unfit”. 
A man unfit for that job could not have had that 2025 draft. 

And I am not trying to be belligerent I certainly don’t feel belligerent,  just trying to use some common sense.
Tepper is the last guy that wants to give up on Young. The coach had WRs throwing fits on field and sidelines in view of everyone. He had to do it, but needed permission. I just can’t buy Tepper instigating that. Sorry. 

[frankw]

12 minutes ago, strato said:

You are too harsh. Owners tell GMs what to do all the time. It doesn’t make someone “unfit”. 
A man unfit for that job could not have had that 2025 draft. 

And I am not trying to be belligerent I certainly don’t feel belligerent,  just trying to use some common sense.
Tepper is the last guy that wants to give up on Young. The coach had WRs throwing fits on field and sidelines in view of everyone. He had to do it, but needed permission. I just can’t buy Tepper instigating that. Sorry. 

That was not directed at you to be clear it was speaking generally to the tone revolving around the topic as I've encountered rather fierce pushback regarding even vague criticism of Morgan and people digging in when forming a defense of him and just a few weeks ago who have since gone completely quiet after we got top to bottom dismantled by the Bills in a brutal loss that was fueled significantly by Andy Dalton's horrific performance.

Realistically putting aside the emotional attachment to Morgan as a former player it is completely illogical to give Dave Canales all the smoke but then shield the guy who was here throughout the bulk of Scott Fitterer's time as GM. He should be getting just as much of a hard look as our head coach is because they supposedly made decisions together and Dan Morgan himself fully signed off on Canales anyways. If one goes they both should.

Edited 9 hours ago by frankw

[Davidson Deac II]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Also, the flipside from Kaye...

 

In fairness, most buyers are teams that feel they have a shot at going deep in the playoffs, and Morgan hasn't been in that spot with the Panthers.  

If we were 6-2 and Morgan felt we needed to patch one or two holes, I could see him making a trade.  

[NAS]

Saints WRs Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed: While the Saints have maintained they don't want to trade their wide receivers, other teams are still monitoring their availability.