Sports betting

[kungfoodude]

This is much ado about nothing. Sports gambling has existed in the US forever and it has legally existed outside the US for a significant portion of time. The reason these scandals are caught(again, this happens internationally) is because sports books combat this stuff so heavily and there is a ton of software specifically designed to ID this stuff.

Sports betting and cheating has existed as long as organized sports. It's easier to ID when it's legal because it isn't masked by illegal enterprises.

[ProcessBlue2]

2 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

Why do you think that ?  I see the exact opposite long term outcome as more likely.

I don’t know. I guess because there is just so much money that will be fixed in it. There will be more question and attention paid to questionable calls and games. I do worry though that the sportsbooks themselves will work with the league or news outlets to push false or misleading media to sway betters a certain way (if they don’t do that already).

[LinvilleGorge]

Overall, it's not good. You have the major online betting sites funneling tons of advertising money and the leagues are happy to take it 1) for the direct advertising money and 2) the gambling drives additional viewership increasing possible advertising value. Anytime there's a lot of money being slung around people are going to try to figure out a way to get their piece of that action, legal or not. I don't know what the answer is. I'm not for blanket banning stuff because it generally just leads to shady black market stuff, but seems like it shouldn't be advertised so heavily. Treat the marketing like tobacco marketing. Like yeah, you can go to the store and buy it but you're not gonna be inundated with commercials about it.

[toldozer]

16 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

yes.  I dont know about the vast majority but I would guess a good  percentage can not stop when they start losing- as all gamblers will eventually.  Its just a matter of time.  The odds are not in the gamblers favor.  Just as debilitating as any other addiction.

I set limits on it day one on all the books I use so even if I got the urge to over do it I can't. Honestly every year you should be required to submit your tax return from the previous year and there should be a capped amount you're allowed to gamble. They would never do that but it would probably help a lot of people

[Pantherxtreme]

Sports and betting go together like peanut butter and jelly. 

And it generates more interest for the game when people have invested interest in them. 

But yea with that does come corruption, but theres a 50% percent chance you're right or wrong and those odds are alot better than other investments.

[HaricotVert]

10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not for blanket banning stuff because it generally just leads to shady black market stuff, but seems like it shouldn't be advertised so heavily. Treat the marketing like tobacco marketing. Like yeah, you can go to the store and buy it but you're not gonna be inundated with commercials about it.

This is the first step, absolutely.

You’ve got to get the dealers out of the house first, the ones pushing this stuff non-stop. The NFL should ban all gambling ads and sponsorships, period. No “brought to you by DraftKings,” no Caesar’s spots every five minutes, no pregame shows dropping ATS picks like it’s part of the sport.

Nobody’s saying you can’t bet if you want to but the league should build a wall between itself and the gambling machine.

Right now, it’s like having a liquor sponsor for an AA meeting.

Edited 1 hour ago by HaricotVert

[toldozer]

16 minutes ago, HaricotVert said:

This is the first step, absolutely.

You’ve got to get the dealers out of the house first, the ones pushing this stuff non-stop. The NFL should ban all gambling ads and sponsorships, period. No “brought to you by DraftKings,” no Caesar’s spots every five minutes, no pregame shows dropping ATS picks like it’s part of the sport.

Nobody’s saying you can’t bet if you want to but the league should build a wall between itself and the gambling machine.

Right now, it’s like having a liquor sponsor for an AA meeting.

Was hilarious to me listening to wfnz in Charlotte blast the NBA about the Rozier situation and then say please text in your thoughts to the FanDuel text line lol

[Khyber53]

Way back in my younger days as a reporter, I had to go and cover a D.A.R.E. graduation event at a local school. They had two NASCAR racing teams there for the kids to meet. Teams sponsored by two different beer companies, one of which had just won the Winston Cup (wow, really back in the day, and a cigarette brand if you didn't know). 

The kids were having a ball and were in awe of the drivers and crew members, they loved seeing the cars. I leaned over to the DARE officer from the Sheriff's Department and said, "You do realize that you told these kids to swear they'd never drink or smoke or use drugs and look who sponsors all this." The look of realization just washed across his face and he glanced side-eyed back at me and said, "Well, poo."

Advertising and marketing are so fuging pervasive in everything we do that the public really doesn't stand a chance anymore. And gambling is doing a full on press for this generation and the next. 

Sports gambling has always existed and always will, but this industrialized one is more than parasitic, it's viral. I'm not sure if the patient will survive it, but if it does, there will be a mighty shock to the system before it lets go.