XL is a bust

[strato]

2 hours ago, Castavar said:

Cam made Devin fuggin Funchess look decent, and XL has WAY more athletic ability and potential than Devin Funchess ever had. It's the QB. How are you supposed to evaluate WRs when your QB can't even muster up 100 yds passing in the modern NFL? 

Yeah it is along the lines of ‘fraud vitiates everything’, it just prevents an honest assessment. 
You got guys with some acknowledged issues, really swimming upstream due to the quality of the QB. 
 

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

XL has without a doubt had his share of bad moments. But you cannot understate how awful many of these passes are and even the ones that have been better have often been poorly placed. Throws to the sideline and throws to the back of the end zone are basically off the table as passes just sail over the receivers head. Defenses have all of this on tape. It makes their job easier. Until we get an adequate passer in here who can open the entire field we cannot fully evaluate the moving parts of this offense.

I think back to game two this year when he got a lot of targets and was unable to do anything. When you look back nothing, or maybe one, was in a decent place for him to get.  I think it was week two. And ‘a lot’ maybe be overstating but there were a few.  

[thennek]

Isn’t XL the player Nicole Tepper told Canales to trade-up for during draft day? 

[frankw]

2 hours ago, strato said:

Yeah it is along the lines of ‘fraud vitiates everything’, it just prevents an honest assessment. 
You got guys with some acknowledged issues, really swimming upstream due to the quality of the QB. 
 

I think back to game two this year when he got a lot of targets and was unable to do anything. When you look back nothing, or maybe one, was in a decent place for him to get.  I think it was week two. And ‘a lot’ maybe be overstating but there were a few.  

Yeah we discussed it at the time. It's just impossible right now to make any firm determination. We know Legette is a project but it's also to the point where now even TMac has begun to be relegated to scapegoat at times. I just don't see this situation lasting through the rest of the season without an eventual boil over. Sooner or later guys are going to air out their frustrations.

[kungfoodude]

9 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

I hope he's just the poster child for sophomore slump. If not, well, we're paying him first round contract for two more seasons.

Rationally, most WRs take three years to fully develop in the NFL. Hopefully he smartens up about his game because a big, relatively fast guy like him shouldn't just be completely removed in games by zone or CB3 man coverage.

 

Sophomore slump? He was terrible last year too.

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, strato said:

And I bet he would make him better.  

It wouldn't because he doesn't have the ability.

[strato]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It wouldn't because he doesn't have the ability.

Everyone can get better now, come on. 

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, strato said:

Everyone can get better now, come on. 

You have to actually want to get better.

[strato]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

You have to actually want to get better.

Yeah. I mean, getting called out by Manning would either motivate you or the opposite, you’d get an attitude. 
I don’t know what XL responds to. Carrot or stick. 
I am thinking he has been getting the carrot. 

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, strato said:

Yeah. I mean, getting called out by Manning would either motivate you or the opposite, you’d get an attitude. 
I don’t know what XL responds to. Carrot or stick. 
I am thinking he has been getting the carrot. 

I don't think he responds to anything because I don't think he cares even remotely about being a successful NFL player.

[SmokinwithWilly]

8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think he responds to anything because I don't think he cares even remotely about being a successful NFL player.

How do you give a poo when your team owner doesnt give a poo about getting a real QB room, your GM doesnt give a poo about your QB room, your coach is rah rah feel good aww shucks you fellas sure tried hard. 

[jfra78]

Again it really makes no sense to call him a bust when you have a QB who places the ball as poorly as Bryce.  

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

How do you give a poo when your team owner doesnt give a poo about getting a real QB room, your GM doesnt give a poo about your QB room, your coach is rah rah feel good aww shucks you fellas sure tried hard. 

XL has never cared much about this. He "made it" on social media and that's ehat he cares about. Not football. That's just going through the motions for a paycheck.

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

XL has never cared much about this. He "made it" on social media and that's ehat he cares about. Not football. That's just going through the motions for a paycheck.

This is an opinion and not fact.  

[kungfoodude]

13 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

This is an opinion and not fact.  

Fair but everything in this thread is an opinion aside from that he is a bust.

That's a fact.