QB School vs Falcons week 11

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 hours ago, Captroop said:

Am I alone in thinking elite speed is overrated? Elite speed in the NFL just means you have a little more separation, which matters a lot less when you've got elite hands. And T-Mac has elite hands. 

Between T-Mac and Coker, I've learned that the #1 thing I want in a WR is a guy who makes catching the ball look easy. Speed. Route-running. Agility. None of that matters if we can't count on you to bring it in when the ball comes your way.

Elite speed matters but you have to have hands too. Ted Ginn was the perfect example of this for the Panthers. 

Elite route running was always AT's game and he was as fast as an angry turtle but damn he could get open and his hands were glue. 

TMac can move, but like all receivers, he does best when you can get it on his hands in stride. 

[Shotgun]

41 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

True, but I'd argue separation isn't at as much of a premium when defenders can't be as physical.  If you can catch anything thrown at you, there's not a lot that can be done to stop it.  You can probably make an argument that it draws more PI flags to separate less, and is therefore valuable to be a jump ball WR.

The only way to stop a guy like that is a nasty pass rush. 

[outlaw4]

4 hours ago, Captroop said:

Am I alone in thinking elite speed is overrated? Elite speed in the NFL just means you have a little more separation, which matters a lot less when you've got elite hands. And T-Mac has elite hands. 

Between T-Mac and Coker, I've learned that the #1 thing I want in a WR is a guy who makes catching the ball look easy. Speed. Route-running. Agility. None of that matters if we can't count on you to bring it in when the ball comes your way.

Raw speed is the one thing that can't be taught. That said, we used to have Ted Ginn, a guy who had wheels for days. But, man oh man would Ginn drop the easiest of catches. Still, super fast guy with cannon arm QB was the ideal pairing.

T-Mac isn't going to pull away like Ginn but he does all the other things well, especially for a rookie. It's looking like a great pick so far although we really needed to draft someone like him earlier.  

[Navy_football]

5 hours ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

I have not heard anything positive that Zavala has done. He is a liability on the O-line. The only qualification that he has to playing on an O-line is that he weighs over 300 lbs. 

wasn't he pretty good on the left side with Ickey last season? Maybe he and D Lewis can switch? I know. It could lead to 2 positions being out of sync. But might be worth a shot. 

[CarolinaRideorDie]

56 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

wasn't he pretty good on the left side with Ickey last season? Maybe he and D Lewis can switch? I know. It could lead to 2 positions being out of sync. But might be worth a shot. 

his rookie year he was at LG, we got D-Lew at LG last year. Zavala is only starting because we lost Hunt and Christensen. He is essentially a 3/4th stringer thrust into starting.