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Back in the early 2000s when you were allowed to mug WRs, looking like a Gears of War character as a WR seemed appealing.

That's what made guys like Jerry Rice and Marvin Harrison so impressive. They played in eras where you could really rough up receivers and they weren't physically imposing guys but they were just so damn good it didn't matter. 

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's what made guys like Jerry Rice and Marvin Harrison so impressive. They played in eras where you could really rough up receivers and they weren't physically imposing guys but they were just so damn good it didn't matter. 

Rice had david goggins drive and determination.

He simply out worked everyone.   

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4 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Rice had david goggins drive and determination.

He simply out worked everyone.   

Oh, He definitely worked his ass off. Don't get me wrong. But he didn't "simply out work everyone". I could've been the hardest working person to have ever lived and I wad never stepping foot on a D1 field much less an NFL training camp. The Jerry Rices of the world is when elite work ethic intersects with elite talent.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh, He definitely worked his ass off. Don't get me wrong. But he didn't "simply out work everyone". I could've been the hardest working person to have ever lived and I wad never stepping foot on a D1 field much less an NFL training camp. The Jerry Rices of the world is when elite work ethic intersects with elite talent.

He did have talent, but if you look at his combine/workout numbers...they are not eye popping like many of the combine freaks are. All the best have talent, smarts, and work ethic. What he was able to do in his 40s, he holds all the records after 40. He had two 1k seasons at 39 and 40, no other WR has 1k after 36. He came back from a ACL tear within 9 months after he turned 35 years old. You know this is the era where ACl was a career derail-er and it took most mortal men took a full 12 months and they were never the same. Only two other players have made catches at that age (40) and neither one was a wide receiver. LOL at Tom being one of them....

 

I also read or heard, he would have still played if not for ST. He was going to play for the broncos in 2006, I think he would have been 44???, he earned a spot as the #4-6 but the numbers game of having WRs play ST ended his career. He could still get open and play, just no sense in having the GOAT run head first into a wedge on KO duties.....

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He did have talent, but if you look at his combine/workout numbers...they are not eye popping like many of the combine freaks are. All the best have talent, smarts, and work ethic. What he was able to do in his 40s, he holds all the records after 40. He had two 1k seasons at 39 and 40, no other WR has 1k after 36. He came back from a ACL tear within 9 months after he turned 35 years old. You know this is the era where ACl was a career derail-er and it took most mortal men took a full 12 months and they were never the same. Only two other players have made catches at that age (40) and neither one was a wide receiver. LOL at Tom being one of them....

 

I also read or heard, he would have still played if not for ST. He was going to play for the broncos in 2006, I think he would have been 44???, he earned a spot as the #4-6 but the numbers game of having WRs play ST ended his career. He could still get open and play, just no sense in having the GOAT run head first into a wedge on KO duties.....

Not all talent can be measured with a ruler and stopwatch. His hands, body control, and ball skills were ELITE. 

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Not all talent can be measured with a ruler and stopwatch. His hands, body control, and skills were ELITE. 

Plus he was in the era in which Safety, LBs, and CBs could de-cleat WRs/TEs on crossing routes. He was beyond tough too. Plus those numbers his 4.66 40 time etc....... GameDay with 15 LBs of pads/clothes/tape, he was the fastest guy on the field. In fact I never recall at any point Rice being ran down or "hawked" from behind by any player. He was a gamer and clutch, just like lex Lugar the total package. 

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57 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh, He definitely worked his ass off. Don't get me wrong. But he didn't "simply out work everyone". I could've been the hardest working person to have ever lived and I wad never stepping foot on a D1 field much less an NFL training camp. The Jerry Rices of the world is when elite work ethic intersects with elite talent.

Jerry was 1 of 1.  Not sure there’s ever been a more talented guy that also had the work ethic he did.  He’s the Tom Brady of WRs.  The GOAT

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2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Jerry was 1 of 1.  Not sure there’s ever been a more talented guy that also had the work ethic he did.  He’s the Tom Brady of WRs.  The GOAT

Art Monk wasnt the GOAT but he had a pretty amazing work ethic as well. I remember listening to some of his teammates talk about how relentless he was. 

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