ESPN guys talk Bryce fifth year option

[Sup]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

My response to pretty much everybody who's talking about "competition"

It ain't happenin' next year

It could happen the following season, but only if Bryce has a bad fourth year.

So if you're pinning any hope whatsoever on any potential QB competition for the 2026 season? Well, sorry but...

I just don't get this at all. Literally almost any vet they sign would be competition. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't know what his status is next year. 

I know he got better coaching from somebody other than Matt Rhule after he left us, but if I remember correctly his playoff performance last season was... less than stellar. 

No, no, no.

I don't mean bring him back. I just mean another wild gunslinger with poor decision making and a penchant for a ton of turnovers.

[cranky]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He's with the Eagles. 

I knew he was with the Vikings in PS but didn't realize they had kept him and then traded him.

Also, as to why he might not be playing:

"Increasingly well traveled, Howell sat out Minnesota's preseason finale. He ended August with 118 passing yards and an interception on 12-of-18 passing in the preseason. However, his last appearance in purple was a disaster in which he completed one of his five pass attempts for 13 yards and the aforementioned pick."

[Sup]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

sign howell, draft a guy and make it a fair competition

 

I think we all know what would happen

Exactly, Bryce will lose. If the draft pick is halfway decent he beats out Bryce as well.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, Sup said:

Exactly, Bryce will lose. If the draft pick is halfway decent he beats out Bryce as well.

It's not relevant who wins or loses. It's about actually attempting to get better at the position.

[Sup]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's not relevant who wins or loses. It's about actually attempting to get better at the position.

I agree, I just think Bryce will lose. 

[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

For fug sake man, can you read?  Where did I criticize bryce and where did I make excuses for TL?  goddamn 

 

and bryce is in a way better situation.  Better oline, better rbs, better wrs.  What in the holy fug are you watching?

Thats exactly what indicating considering you responded to my comment 

 

Trevor has the better line, weapon and coaches. And defense which gives him better field position 

[cranky]

43 minutes ago, CRA said:

If you are using PFR then you should be able to easily the the dividing league average line.....where Bryce is above and Trevor is below it.  It's a big blank space that says league average when you are sorting by bad throw %. 

You don't really want to go backwards.

Bryce was #1 in bad throw % in 2023

Bryce was #1 in bad throw % in 2024 (technically 2 but #1 was Anthony Richardson and he didn't finish out the season)

in 2023, 2024, 2025.....Bryce is above league average all 3 seasons in bad throw % and Trevor is below all 3 seasons.  

Bryce stans need to find something else than thinking Trevor Lawrence somehow makes Bryce Young not bad.   It's not working.  And no one, even Clemson fans, really want to be in here defending the forever disappointing Trevor Lawrence.  

Again, no one cares about 2023 If they did, everyone would want Kirk Cousins.

As far as he being slightly below average with bad throw, he is. Young's at 17.5% and the average is 16.3%. When you do the math that comes out to be 4 bad throws over 13 games. Statistically insignificant. Certainly not worth trashing a guy over.

And it seems to me it is you trying to use Trevor to make Young look worse. After all, you are the one who claimed Trevor was above average and claimed his struggles this year are from "The Jags skill positions players have been a big let down this year." I'm just responding to your claims.

[Mr. Scot]

20 minutes ago, TN05 said:

The fact people are hyping up scrubs like Howell and Lance really indicates just how cosmically unlikely it is anyone but Bryce is gonna start for us next year.

Who suggested Lance?

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Who suggested Lance?

He's been suggested a few times as someone with the physical skills who was young and could possibly fit the system DC runs. A throw it at the wall and see if he sticks option. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Sup said:

I agree, I just think Bryce will lose. 

Is refer you back to 2003 when John Fox said that Rodney Peete "won" the "open competition" for the starting role in Week 1...even though he only played like a single series in preseason. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

He's been suggested a few times as someone with the physical skills who was young and could possibly fit the system DC runs. A throw it at the wall and see if he sticks option. 

That I knew. I mistakenly thought he meant someone had brought him up in this thread.

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, cranky said:

Again, no one cares about 2023 If they did, everyone would want Kirk Cousins.

As far as he being slightly below average with bad throw, he is. Young's at 17.5% and the average is 16.3%. When you do the math that comes out to be 4 bad throws over 13 games. Statistically insignificant. Certainly not worth trashing a guy over.

And it seems to me it is you trying to use Trevor to make Young look worse. After all, you are the one who claimed Trevor was above average and claimed his struggles this year are from "The Jags skill positions players have been a big let down this year." I'm just responding to your claims.

Again, the Bryce stans need to get on the same page.  It was just complained about when I didn’t include 2023 on another discussion and left it out.  Because they wanted to talk about his growth. 

the Bryce stans bring up Trevor, not the haters 

I have never said Trevor is above average lol as a NFL QB.  

but yes, Trevor can be a headache basket case  AND the league leaders in drops can be a big letdown (paired with injury) in a convo where someone calls them great.  They have been hurt and dropping the ball unlike any other team.  Thats not great weapons at your disposal if they are hurt and not catching 

[kungfoodude]

12 minutes ago, Sup said:

I agree, I just think Bryce will lose. 

I mean, I don't think there is much chance of a "competition" anyway.

He is either gonna be the guy or they are gonna move on from him.