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ESPN guys talk Bryce fifth year option


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2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If they are not looking for a plan B if/when the wheels fall off then they will not have their jobs long.

My response to pretty much everybody who's talking about "competition"

It ain't happenin' next year 😕

It could happen the following season, but only if Bryce has a bad fourth year.

So if you're pinning any hope whatsoever on any potential QB competition for the 2026 season? Well, sorry but...

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8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am kind of amazed that the organization still believes. It definitely shakes any remaining faith of a turnaround, that's for sure.

Of course there is an element of, "well what do you expect them to say?"

I don't think they're" just saying"... 

Like it or not, it's all real 😕

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3 minutes ago, cranky said:

I understand having a plan B. I just don't think they are actively looking for his replacement at this time.

 

There's no way they could have gone through this season looking at the qb room and say, nah fam we good. I refuse to believe that.

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8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I'd honestly rather be sitting on Bryce with no major future commitment than Lawrence on a franchise QB contract. The former situation gives you options, you're pretty much stuck with the status quo for the foreseeable future in the latter.

Ditto...

Wouldn't mind adding Sam Howell (his skill set fits wwll with Canales scheme) but I doubt he'd be considered competition for the starting role. 

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

My response to pretty much everybody who's talking about "competition"

It ain't happenin' next year 😕

It could happen the following season, but only if Bryce has a bad fourth year.

So if you're pinning any hope whatsoever on any potential QB competition for the 2026 season? Well, sorry but...

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I'm not buying they are all in on Young. If they are we have bigger problems than a short qb.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ditto...

Wouldn't mind adding Sam Howell (his skill set fits wwll with Canales scheme) but I doubt he'd be considered competition for the starting role. 

I'd obviously love Howell and we gotta do something to upgrade the QB room even if we do pickup Bryce's 5th year option. We can't go into another season with Bryce and the washed up ghost of what used to be Andy Dalton.

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7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Improved is true. Good is a different thing.

I think that is the issue, he has improved to "not very good" from "really bad."

Are we to assume this progression continues? If so, it probably means 2-3 more seasons before we see "franchise caliber" QB play on a consistent basis.

And I really don't think anyone buys into that notion of consistent improvement at this point.

Consistent is the operative word here.

He's shown he can be good.

He's shown he can even be very good.

But as far as consistency, that's where I'd ask the congregation to turn in their Bibles to Revaluation 3:15 😕

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