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7 Wins And STILL Gonna Finish Last in the Division

Joe Bear

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Wild how you can be leading the NFC South on Dec. 13, and end up finishing last. The Saints are gonna win out and finish with 7 wins and beat us on the tiebreaker, Falcons will win 3 more and our guaranteed 3 losses bag another last-place finish. 

This season was better than I expected for sure, win-wise, and there were some awesome upset wins — but finishing last while the Saints are on the rise and go from 2-10 to passing us in the standings removes a hell of a lot of goodwill I had for this franchise. 

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Just now, Waldo said:

I would still bet on the Falcons being last. They seem the clear worst team in a weak division

Saints have such a weak schedule. They literally play college teams from here. Falcons will somehow BS their way to 8 wins and that leaves us P4 as usual in the standings. 

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It's not going to happen, but if we're not going to make the playoffs, finishing last would be WAY better than finishing in 2nd.

And before someone jumps on me, no, this has nothing to do with improving our draft position, it's solely due to the schedule next year.

Give me a 4th place schedule over a 2nd place, no question about it.  And again, before anyone says it's only a few games that are affected... well, we may end up missing the playoffs by 1 or 2 wins in the end, so yea, I think those 3 games against 4th place finishers instead of 2nd place, could very well make the difference between making or missing the playoffs.

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14 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

It's not going to happen, but if we're not going to make the playoffs, finishing last would be WAY better than finishing in 2nd.

And before someone jumps on me, no, this has nothing to do with improving our draft position, it's solely due to the schedule next year.

Give me a 4th place schedule over a 2nd place, no question about it.  And again, before anyone says it's only a few games that are affected... well, we may end up missing the playoffs by 1 or 2 wins in the end, so yea, I think those 3 games against 4th place finishers instead of 2nd place, could very well make the difference between making or missing the playoffs.

Depends on what 4th place teams you get. Having teams like the Vikings and Bengals be the 4th place teams you have to play isn't much better than the 2nd place alternatives IMO.

Teams improve/get worse year-to-year, so I don't think schedule strength is that big of a deal, especially when injuries like Mahomes tearing his ACL happens. Chiefs will be a 4 win team next year if Mahomes doesn't play in 2026

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17 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

It's not going to happen, but if we're not going to make the playoffs, finishing last would be WAY better than finishing in 2nd.

And before someone jumps on me, no, this has nothing to do with improving our draft position, it's solely due to the schedule next year.

Give me a 4th place schedule over a 2nd place, no question about it.  And again, before anyone says it's only a few games that are affected... well, we may end up missing the playoffs by 1 or 2 wins in the end, so yea, I think those 3 games against 4th place finishers instead of 2nd place, could very well make the difference between making or missing the playoffs.

Yep, it's the reality of pro sports. If you're not gonna make the playoffs you're better off being as bad as possible. All that talk about morale victories and building a winning culture and we just continue to suck year after year. Not sucking enough is what led us to make that desperation trade up for Bryce.

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3 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Saints have such a weak schedule. They literally play college teams from here. Falcons will somehow BS their way to 8 wins and that leaves us P4 as usual in the standings. 

We are 50% of their wins. Im guessing they drop one more too.

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