If you can only fire ONE person before 2026....

[SmokinwithWilly]

I'm firing DC, though I think it actually makes the job less attractive. He's not prepared to be a HC and it's showed. A new HC is not going to be tied automatically to BY. He's going to want to bring in some level of competition in the QB room because anyone who has ever watched football knows our QB room is lacking. If he doesn't, that tells a more interesting tale of who's really calling the shots. 

Dave hasn't been decisive enough in game and that leadership council BS has trust fall vibes. Our offense has been pathetically stale and vanilla. Our run game while good has made no sense based on who has been playing best. Our defense is improved but they can't be expected to hold opposing teams to below 17 a game because our offense can't score consistently. 

We've beaten some teams we shouldn't have beaten, specifically GB and the Rams, and I think our record doesn’t accurately reflect where the team and the coaching really is. We've fallen flat against a geriatric rookie QB leading a 2-10 NO team and got our ass handed to us TWICE. We're unprepared for the biggest games. 

This is what happens though when real coaching candidates turn down interviews because your owner is a narcissistic butthole. You get someone no one else bothered to call and you get the results everyone else would have expected if they had. 

[kungfoodude]

32 minutes ago, strato said:

He could luck into a QB and his meddling would have much less impact. The team gets good he doesn’t feel the need to meddle as much. 
 

Only way it can work with him. 
 

We got really unlucky. How many drafts will there ever be where a midget is there for him to fall in love with? And would he do it again after this anyway? 
If we’d have been lucky enough to not do this with Bryce in play, the odds of lucking into the right choice between two players with all the attributes jumps to 50% (Bryce was zero). 

I don't think a great QB will ever be able to overcome a bad owner/ownership. It permeates too much of the organization and creates scenarios where it is very difficult to ever succeed for any length of time.

In fairness to that draft, two of the top 3 guys in this "strong" draft were huge busts and Bryce wasn't even the biggest one. Perhaps, ultimately, we just made that trade up in the wrong draft, as well.

Compare it to the next draft that has seen so much success and wouldn't have even required any sort of trade ups.

[Castavar]

I truly believe this team would be 9-5 (maybe even 10-4) right now with a decent QB. I wanna see Canales with his handpicked QB before writing him off. 

Canales still has room to grow. Ejiro has literally won us games this year with his defensive gameplan with damn near no playmakers besides Brown. So that leaves one person..........get that little ass QB outta Carolina. 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Castavar said:

I truly believe this team would be 9-5 (maybe even 10-4) right now with a decent QB. I wanna see Canales with his handpicked QB before writing him off. 

Canales still has room to grow. Ejiro has literally won us games this year with his defensive gameplan with damn near no playmakers besides Brown. So that leaves one person..........get that little ass QB outta Carolina. 

Honestly, I think Canales has almost regressed as a playcaller, if anything. 

[Basbear]

Im firing the BFF Brad Idzik. Bring in a true OC that's a X and O master, bonus it allows Dave to focus on HC while the new OC calls plays and bring a different mindset/ideas. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Basbear

[cranky]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Oh definitely not under Tepper but we could technically get worse at QB and DC too. Or even GM, etc.

I am asking which factor would you personally change first.

My logic is HC because if you give them more actual control then two of those other factors are likely to change anyway.

Canales is a fairly limp dick head coach from what I have seen. Basically a youth pastory, buddy boss type. 90% style to 10% substance.

lol...can't disagree with that rather elegant discription.

[Johnstonny]

26 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Im firing the BFF Brad Idzik. Bring in a true OC that's a X and O master, bonus it allows Dave to focus on HC while the new OC calls plays and bring a different mindset/ideas. 

We've seen the D collapse plenty of times...Head coach should be in the DC's face saying wtf. Instead...hes still looking into the play sheet. He seems to care little about defense. Bet Vrabl would have these boys playin.

[Johnstonny]

The half pint pinto has to go for me. His ceiling is low and hes already hit it...not good enough.

Followed by Evero and Canales... No situational awareness.... Still think DC is hamstrung with Bryce. Evero...just wow... bad.

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[kungfoodude]

32 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Im firing the BFF Brad Idzik. Bring in a true OC that's a X and O master, bonus it allows Dave to focus on HC while the new OC calls plays and bring a different mindset/ideas. 

I mean that dude is a nothing factor. Canales will never give up playcaling, IMO. Another on the laundry list of reasons to fire him. He is a bottom 10% tier offensive playcaller. 

If he wasn't interested in getting an actual offensive playcaller in here(spoiler alert, he won't be) all the more reason to move on.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Johnstonny said:

The half pint pinto has to go for me. His ceiling is low and hes already hit it...not good enough.

Followed by Evero and Canales... No situational awareness.... Still think DC is hamstrung with Bryce. Evero...just wow... bad.

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He's not hamstrung by Young. He's hamstrung by his own intelligence or lack thereof. 

[Johnstonny]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

He's not hamstrung by Young. He's hamstrung by his own intelligence or lack thereof. 

...I'm leaning that way. but Brycie isn't helping.

Edited 25 minutes ago by Johnstonny

[strato]

43 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Honestly, I think Canales has almost regressed as a playcaller, if anything. 

And I am thinking it is because he has an impossible job with putting enough plays together in a playbook to beat NFL defenses with his little college QB that can’t see unless we split the field in half so he can get out to one side or the other. 
 

If we just had typical largely unimaginative play action passing game with actual deep capability for him to call plays off of, and someone capable running it, it would be better than what we have. 
I amnot married to him but we only get one. I see more success with him and another QB than this QB and another HC/new offense. 

[CRA]

Bryce.  We have seen him w/ 2 coaches.  The flaws will forever be the flaws.  The ceiling will forever be the ceiling.  Limitations will forever be the limitations.   Give Canales 1 season w/ a downfield thrower.  I mean, I don't like Dave and his style but that's the only thing that makes sense IMO big picture.  We know what Bryce is.  What know what Evero is.  See a single season of Dave w/ a QB that fits his scheme. 

Heck we would likely be a double digit win team with just some nobody like Shough.  

[Swaggasaurus]

You don’t fire Dave…or Bryce. EJ gets the boot. Doesnt mesh well with Dave, doesn’t really give you a lot. You bring someone in to compete with Bryce, A VET. Canales isn’t even on the hot seat.