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Why does Bryce get the blame?

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1 minute ago, carolinanimal said:

i dont get it. when your qb is this limited is kills your offense. we talk about gameplanning, but you have to gameplan around a massive weakness in your offense. we are 10th in rushing , but 28th in passing and points i believe. points come out of the passing game. 

we will never be even a mediocre offense with bryce. i have the NFL Gamepass and when in watch the all 22 of other qbs it makes me sick to my stomach that our qbs throws dont look like theirs. ☹️

Perfect. You've watched the all 22 for the game. Now answer my question about why Bryce gets trashed after the loss. What specifically did he do or not do that caused the the Panthers to lose yesterday. 

 

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I’ve been critical of Bryce, but I don’t put yesterday’s loss on him. Were there some bad throws and questionable decisions? Sure, every quarterback has those in every game. Overall, I thought he did what he needed to do and did his 1/11th. I’m not saying the rest of the team didn’t try, but either the Saints simply wanted it more than we did, or the NFL decided to stir up some drama by setting the stage for a Week 19 showdown for the division crown. Either way, the reality is that the team as a whole didn’t play well yesterday.

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Perfect. You've watched the all 22 for the game. Now answer my question about why Bryce gets trashed after the loss. What specifically did he do or not do that caused the the Panthers to lose yesterday. 

 

wait you are pivoting now from he is the blamed for the loss to he is getting trashed?  Log off my dude, you look like an idiot.  He played "meh" if you dont see that then a mirror is in order for you

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Perfect. You've watched the all 22 for the game. Now answer my question about why Bryce gets trashed after the loss. What specifically did he do or not do that caused the the Panthers to lose yesterday. 

 

Since we're playing this game, missing an easy TD to Tet if he just put it in front of him. Instead he threw it behind him allowing the defender to catch up and break up the pass (he made an incredible play, but was only possible because Young threw a bad ball). Make that throw and we win. You would expect a 3rd year "franchise" 1st overall pick QB to make that play, because Shough damn sure would have. 

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@cranky bro, us BY haters have already given him props and most of us have not called his game a reason for the loss. Fishing too hard my frend...... We mainly call the game how it happens, shocking I know...........

Even in the ultra toxic GameDay thread, not much of "BY is reason for the LOSS!!!!!! CUTT his ARSSE RIGHHT MEOW!!!!!!!" psycho posting.

Plus I nearly retired from BY talking, I will let the other "haters" post the 489th same post against the BY stans....

Excuse me...

 

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4 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Since we're playing this game, missing an easy TD to Tet if he just put it in front of him. Instead he threw it behind him allowing the defender to catch up and break up the pass (he made an incredible play, but was only possible because Young threw a bad ball). Make that throw and we win. You would expect a 3rd year "franchise" 1st overall pick QB to make that play, because Shough damn sure would have. 

Shough did just that on the slant to Olave. Horn had sold out for the pick and if that ball was anywhere near behind him, it's probably a turnover. Instead, we are here.

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Offenses this year are averaging around 22 per game. We scored 17. Defenses are averaging around 20. Exactly what we gave up. We didn't score enough points. Low scoring games with passing offense under 200 yards seems to be one thing we do fairly consistently. How much of that is DC or Bryce, who can really say. But it's way too common a thing to make me think it's just one or the other. 

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Since we're going this route, missing an easy TD to Tet if he just put it in front of him. Instead he threw it behind him allowing the defender to catch up and break up the pass (he made an incredible play, but was only possible because Young threw a bad ball). Make that play and we win. You would expect a 3rd year "franchise" 1st overall pick QB to make that play, because Shough damn sure would have. 

Bryce didn't lose or win us the game, which has been true for about 95% of his career games. 

Shough made similar passes yesterday (behind the receiver) and they were all caught even when contested (to be honest though, at least one of them was luck)

I will agree though, I wish it had been just a little more in front of him. But I also wish they would have kicked a FG instead of going for the 4th down. I also wish there wasn't an illegal formation call on the 50 yard KO return. I wish the defense hadn't commited 81 yards worht of penalties giving them 6 first downs in the process. I wish Ickey hadn't had a bad day, I wish Evero didn't continue to call blitzes leaving the middle of the field open for receptions. 

The point there are so many things to talk about concerning blame and yet Bryce continues to be brought up. 

 

 

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Shough did just that on the slant to Olave. Horn had sold out for the pick and if that ball was anywhere near behind him, it's probably a turnover. Instead, we are here.

Exactly. Both teams were fairly even across the board, they literally just won the QB battle. Shough kept drives alive with insanely accurate passes in tight windows. 

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6 minutes ago, Basbear said:

@cranky bro, us BY haters have already given him props and most of us have not called his game a reason for the loss. Fishing too hard my frend...... We mainly call the game how it happens, shocking I know...........

Even in the ultra toxic GameDay thread, not much of "BY is reason for the LOSS!!!!!! CUTT his ARSSE RIGHHT MEOW!!!!!!!" psycho posting.

Plus I nearly retired from BY talking, I will let the other "haters" post the 489th same post against the BY stans....

Excuse me...

 

Yeah, I'm with you on the BY talking. Guess I had a relapse lol. I'm done with it now though.

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4 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Offenses this year are averaging around 22 per game. We scored 17. Defenses are averaging around 20. Exactly what we gave up. We didn't score enough points. Low scoring games with passing offense under 200 yards seems to be one thing we do fairly consistently. How much of that is DC or Bryce, who can really say. But it's way too common a thing to make me think it's just one or the other. 

We know Canales O averaged 225 per game his one year calling plays without Bryce…..and his QB had more 300+ yards game than Bryce has 200+ yard games that season.  
 

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19 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

wait you are pivoting now from he is the blamed for the loss to he is getting trashed?  Log off my dude, you look like an idiot.  He played "meh" if you dont see that then a mirror is in order for you

I'm still waiting on something specific from you. Something more than "he played meh". The only thing I ever get from you is cursing a lot and calling me an idiot. 

I used to resort to personal insults and cursing as well but then I grew up.

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Shough made similar passes yesterday (behind the receiver) and they were all caught even when contested (to be honest though, at least one of them was luck)

I will agree though, I wish it had been just a little more in front of him. But I also wish they would have kicked a FG instead of going for the 4th down. I also wish there wasn't an illegal formation call on the 50 yard KO return. I wish the defense hadn't commited 81 yards worht of penalties giving them 6 first downs in the process. I wish Ickey hadn't had a bad day, I wish Evero didn't continue to call blitzes leaving the middle of the field open for receptions. 

The point there are so many things to talk about concerning blame and yet Bryce continues to be brought up. 

 

 

Because we spent a king's ransom for him to be "the guy". It's like everybody else has to play perfect for Bryce to even have a chance to win. Defense isn't going to get 3+ turnovers every damn game. We STILL held an NFL team to 20 points (league average is 23.1) and only put up 17 points ourselves. Swap QB's yesterday and we win. But again, nobody is solely blaming Bryce for the loss yesterday.

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