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Why does Bryce get the blame?

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12 minutes ago, ncsfinest21 said:

okay so its Bryce fault they get a holding call and et backed up. Come on man. You know we arent good at 3rd and longs. He didnt turn the ball over and he dropped dimes to Coker and TMAC shouldve caught that one. Granted a little behind but very catchable.  Im not a Bryce supporter at all but I call it how I see it. He didnt cost us that game yesterday. Nuff said.

Bryce doesn’t generate average production from the QB spot….

so a Panther team with little invested in their D becomes overly reliant to win games in ways they haven’t structured the team to win them. 

that factors.

was Bryce horrific? All things being equal did he lose the game? No. But everyone isn’t judging all things equally.   PJ Walker isn’t held to the same expectations as prime Cam Newton.   And at some point, you just have to acknowledge Bryce doesn’t carry the load anyone in his position is expected too.  Shough just happens to make that glaring.  Bryce being throughly outplayed….is a key reason we lost.  The PJ Walker bar isn’t Bryce’s and folks have to raise it 

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31 minutes ago, ncsfinest21 said:

We literally scored on 3 of our 4 first possessions and they had one possession of 11 mins. Defense let us down on this one with penalties.

Saints had 3 possessions in the 4th - 10 points

Panthers had 3 possessions in the 4th (not counting their 4th)  - 0 points 

 

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2 hours ago, cranky said:

Just curious some posters think the loss falls on him.

He had a 96 Qb rating and PFF has him rated with the second highest offensive grade just behind Coker. 

Production wise, the offense had 14 first downs. Dowdle had 16 carries getting a single first down. His long run was 8 yards. If you take out that one run, he averaged 2.6 yds/carry over the remaining 15. Hubbard got 3 first downs with 8 carries. Bryce had 10 first downs either through the air or with his legs. yet he gets the blame for the loss.

Even with a 96 QB rating, being rated with the second best pff score and him accounting for over 70% of all the first downs, I keep seeing people argue he was the reason they lost. 

Curious.

 

 

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QBs are judged by wins and losses 

in this game he didn’t do enough to win.  The team scored 17 points   As this podcaster says…he was solid, for Bryce meaning no turnovers, 160 yards one TD

in the nfl, that isn’t going to win many games   That is a fact   Life isn’t fair

 

  

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Cause most of the poster in this forum don’t watch football and don’t understand football. You can post All-22 clips and they will still find a way to spin into it being Bryce fault. 
 

Facts are we have a bottom 10 roster by every single metric, our best WR runs a 4.6 and is having drop issues, our line can’t protect to save its life and coach isn’t creative. The only reason we were competitive in yesterday games was cause of Bryce. 
 

We just saw Baker last week with way better supporting cast put up 120 yards on 30 attempts one TD and one pick vs this same saints defense.
 

But but but Shough outplayed him, Shough was playing vs the worst pass rush in the NFL, playing soft coverage, and anytime we stopped him they threw a flag and extended the saints drives. Every QB that plays our defense should out gain Bryce. Shough did nothing in yesterdays game but throw to wide open WR and on occasion his WR made circus catches 

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9 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Cause most of the poster in this forum don’t watch football and don’t understand football. You can post All-22 clips and they will still find a way to spin into it being Bryce fault. 
 

Facts are we have a bottom 10 roster by every single metric, our best WR runs a 4.6 and is having drop issues, our line can’t protect to save its life and coach isn’t creative. The only reason we were competitive in yesterday games was cause of Bryce. 
 

We just saw Baker last week with way better supporting cast put up 120 yards on 30 attempts one TD and one pick vs this same saints defense.
 

But but but Shough outplayed him, Shough was playing vs the worst pass rush in the NFL, playing soft coverage, and anytime we stopped him they threw a flag and extended the saints drives. Every QB that plays our defense should out gain Bryce. Shough did nothing in yesterdays game but throw to wide open WR and on occasion his WR made circus catches 

the cope is real

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9 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Cause most of the poster in this forum don’t watch football and don’t understand football. You can post All-22 clips and they will still find a way to spin into it being Bryce fault. 
 

Facts are we have a bottom 10 roster by every single metric, our best WR runs a 4.6 and is having drop issues, our line can’t protect to save its life and coach isn’t creative. The only reason we were competitive in yesterday games was cause of Bryce. 
 

We just saw Baker last week with way better supporting cast put up 120 yards on 30 attempts one TD and one pick vs this same saints defense.
 

But but but Shough outplayed him, Shough was playing vs the worst pass rush in the NFL, playing soft coverage, and anytime we stopped him they threw a flag and extended the saints drives. Every QB that plays our defense should out gain Bryce. Shough did nothing in yesterdays game but throw to wide open WR and on occasion his WR made circus catches 

Baker is playing injured with a much worse offensive line. The stains are 19th in points allowed at 24.3 ppg averaging 12 is certainly an indictment of your QB.

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5 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Baker is playing injured with a much worse offensive line. The stains are 19th in points allowed at 24.3 ppg averaging 12 is certainly an indictment of your QB.

So now Baker is injured? I guess I’m gonna use Bryce wrapped ankle as an excuse also.

And no the bucs line is better than ours, Baker actually has time to attempt 7 step drops. And the saints have the 6th ranked pass defense 

 

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5 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Man I really really don't understand how anyone can still be a Bryce stan.... you gave me hella poo in the offseason for just saying meh wait and see.... and guess what I ate the wait and see crow.... he is what he is.

Alabama fandom runs deep. They want a QB room of Bryce, Tua, Mac and Jalen.

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21 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Cause most of the poster in this forum don’t watch football and don’t understand football

Facts are we have a bottom 10 roster by every single metric

We don’t have a bottom 10 OL

We don’t have a bottom 10 backfield 

which is why we heave a top 10 ranked rush attack despite subpar QB play and everyone knowing we are going to run it. 

and we don’t have a bottom 10 offensive roster given the first two facts are true 

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