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Cam Newton looked “terrible” during his Scouting Combine workout


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I was on board with cam coming in and I know there is a long process to go through before te draft but I'm leaning toward going in another direction. First would be to trade down and if that doesn't work then I'd go with Patrick petersen or AJ Green. Considering Marshall is potentially leaving I'm saying petersen right now.

However, if Gabbert shows well at his workout I wouldn't be against getting him...we still need a franchise QB but this may not be the year we get one.

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I was on board with cam coming in and I know there is a long process to go through before te draft but I'm leaning toward going in another direction. First would be to trade down and if that doesn't work then I'd go with Patrick petersen or AJ Green. Considering Marshall is potentially leaving I'm saying petersen right now.

However, if Gabbert shows well at his workout I wouldn't be against getting him...we still need a franchise QB but this may not be the year we get one.

Cam is so tempting (I have been calling him fool's gold) because he is a freak of nature and a charismatic leader. But every where you turn, a red flag. They could be nothing, but I am not risking the pick on him. We need a homerun and I don't mind looking for a fastball.

This is why I refuse to sip the Cam Kool Aid, and why those who have the Cam Kool-aid mustache should get some air and be more patient.

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I spoke to Greg Cosell of NFL Films about Newton - Greg is also the Executive Producer of ESPN's NFL Matchup, the legendary X-and-) show that's been going strong since 1984. Greg said that as obvious as the "work-in-progress" label is on Newton, he's doing it the right way.

"I think that when a guy can't do something, and you're teaching him to do it, he always looks exaggerated at first because it's something new. But that's coaching, and I think he's absolutely doing the right thing - he should be doing that stuff as precisely as he can, even f it doesn't look smooth and fluid yet. It will look smooth and fluid, because he's a big-time athlete."

Greg said - and these are observations that are consistent with my own and many others about Newton - that the real issues for him at the NFL level will be mental and schematic. How will he handle it when the throws he made in college aren't open in the NFL? How long will it take him to process things well enough in a multiple-read offense? How closely will his NFL team fit its offense to his skill set, and will that team start him too soon?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Newton-goes-through-combine-throws-to-a-mixed-re?urn=nfl-327023

A bit more level headed take.

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i think at the very least, cam has shown just how much of a project he is and he is no sam bradford. nobody can draft him and have him start right away. and if drafting a QB #1, that pick has to be ready to start or else it's best to pick another position.

hopefully, but i'm sure it won't, cam's performance will lessen the hype and let us focus on who we are going to draft with the #1 because it obviously will not be cam newton.

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Funny how everyone who bought into Mike Mayock's view of Cam would be very surprised to hear that he just said on the NFL Network, the over throws were no big deal.

...and funny too, how the NFL network just did an interview with him about the same.

as someone said, 'haters gonna hate'.

I don't care who the Panthers draft; but, the negativity towards this kid is unbelievable.

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I agree with the statements here. However, it doesn't get into the fact that other QBs who participated did better and they came from similar offenses. Does this mean Cam takes longer to learn new stuff than other QBs? It could if he dismisses technique to rely on superior athleticism.

Gabbert also came from a spread and chose not to throw. Maybe this is why.

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