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Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

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11 hours ago, Johnstonny said:

BY shoulda been Howell'd after his rook season. But no...we are going to trot him out there another year...like he grew 5" and has a strong arm and processing abilities. We need someone for when hes benched next year. It wouldn't take much to beat him out in competition...if there wasn't an agenda.

I mean Reich literally quiet quit when they drafted Young.

You could see the light go out of his eyes. The highly respected NFL HC (and original Panther!) was fired mid-season because he knew he couldn't win with Young.

Any self-respecting franchise would have seen his play and pivoted, moving on from Young that year, but no we continue to trot him out there with no competition. It's maddening.

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13 hours ago, bigdog_10_2002 said:

Evero, Canales, Bryce all tied together through at least next year. Honestly, it’s one of the smarter things Tepper has done. 
 

it gives you the opportunity to see if this squad can continue to grow before making any extension decisions. 
 

If next year bombs out, you have a pretty easy reset with a fresh staff, a high pick, a talented roster, and no qb crippling contract. 

Well besides paying Young $27m for replacement level play of course.

There's nothing wrong with the coaching staff and the roster very much is a rebuild in process. It's still not an attractive proposition for a Head Coach with this meddling owner in charge.

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4 hours ago, OldhamA said:

I mean Reich literally quiet quit when they drafted Young.

You could see the light go out of his eyes. The highly respected NFL HC (and original Panther!) was fired mid-season because he knew he couldn't win with Young.

Any self-respecting franchise would have seen his play and pivoted, moving on from Young that year, but no we continue to trot him out there with no competition. It's maddening.

....Yea, it literally wiped the smile right off Reichs face. We are kind of in the same position as Shitsburgh, looking for a QB.  They keep looking and trying to improve at qb but we just say: 'nah, we good'. The Dipper agenda keeps BY alive. To bad we didn't give Darnold or Mayfield that kind of time, They at least had the tools, skills and attributes of a QB. Its tough to win in the NFL, at least give yourself a chance. 

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3 hours ago, Johnstonny said:

....Yea, it literally wiped the smile right off Reichs face. We are kind of in the same position as Shitsburgh, looking for a QB.  They keep looking and trying to improve at qb but we just say: 'nah, we good'. The Dipper agenda keeps BY alive. To bad we didn't give Darnold or Mayfield that kind of time, They at least had the tools, skills and attributes of a QB. Its tough to win in the NFL, at least give yourself a chance. 

That is a huge point of contention with me. The assets brought in for him, those guys got none of that, and no time either. I mean we are going 4 years here all in. And still don’t know that the floor can be raised. 

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14 hours ago, OldhamA said:

I mean Reich literally quiet quit when they drafted Young.

You could see the light go out of his eyes. The highly respected NFL HC (and original Panther!) was fired mid-season because he knew he couldn't win with Young.

Any self-respecting franchise would have seen his play and pivoted, moving on from Young that year, but no we continue to trot him out there with no competition. It's maddening.

I don’t hundred percent agree with the last paragraph, considering what was invested. 
But when Reich told them the truth about the footwork issues, and seeing Young was not prepared for the under center game, and obviously Reich did not think he should be starting… a good franchise would have respected his opinion and let him handle the QB the way he thought best.  
 

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7 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

5 years is plenty of time to develop a mediocre backup QB.

The thing that stands out to me is the guys who have been drafted since, some of them pretty low, are out progressing and flat outplaying Young. It isn’t one guy either. It is several. 
So much of it comes down to skill set. Physical tools. They have more of them. 
 

Height is a component in this. A large portion of the stuff with Bryce comes from his poor field vision, which is 100% height related.  
 

 

 

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2 hours ago, strato said:

I don’t hundred percent agree with the last paragraph, considering what was invested. 
But when Reich told them the truth about the footwork issues, and seeing Young was not prepared for the under center game, and obviously Reich did not think he should be starting… a good franchise would have respected his opinion and let him handle the QB the way he thought best.  
 

You hire a coach and give him a multi year contract, trade up to 1st overall with 4 potential QBs to chose from, it only makes logical sense that he would get to select his QB. He's going to be running the team for at least 3 years, hypothetically. Why wouldn't he get his guy? 

Bryce was Tepper's choice, not Frank's. You knew Frank didn't want to work for Dave after the draft. Can't work for a guy you can't trust and Dave and Scott lied to him. His face told the story then, it showed during the season, and he completely gave up when he couldn't fix Bryce over the weekend. 

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42 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

You hire a coach and give him a multi year contract, trade up to 1st overall with 4 potential QBs to chose from, it only makes logical sense that he would get to select his QB. He's going to be running the team for at least 3 years, hypothetically. Why wouldn't he get his guy? 

Bryce was Tepper's choice, not Frank's. You knew Frank didn't want to work for Dave after the draft. Can't work for a guy you can't trust and Dave and Scott lied to him. His face told the story then, it showed during the season, and he completely gave up when he couldn't fix Bryce over the weekend. 

I believe you are accurate there. Without knowing for a fact, I think we basically understand what happened. 

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