Panthers have a Jalen Coker problem.

[Jay Roosevelt]

He literally can't negotiate with any team but us. I'm sure we'll give him a nice raise, but I wouldn't expect him to get a huge contract just yet.

[strato]

3 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

He won’t get a new contract this year. It will likely be before his 4th year. Panthers can use the RFA for a cheap year in 2027 and then give him a 3-4 year extension for 2028-2030/2031.

All assuming he has a solid year in 2026 and we want to extend him.

There’s just 0 reason for Panthers to do anything different as worst case is you get him for 2 more cheap years or for 1 more cheap year and a 1st round pick.

I don’t know. I don’t feel like they should play hardball with him unless they don’t want to pay him later. He could get alienated given what he just did in the playoffs. If I were him I would think I had proven my worth. 
 

Course I don’t know and am not trying to say I am right and you are wrong. Just my perception of things. 

Edited 1 hour ago by strato

[WhoKnows]

Just now, Jay Roosevelt said:

He literally can't negotiate with any team but us. I'm sure we'll give him a nice raise, but I wouldn't expect him to get a huge contract just yet.

There isn’t even negotiating. The tender amounts from ERFA and RFA are present, like the 5th year option or franchise tag. This discussion is kind of pointless right now.

[WhoKnows]

Just now, strato said:

I don’t know. I don’t feel like they should play hardball with him unless they don’t want to pay him later. He could get alienated given what he just did in the playoffs. If I were him I would think I had proven my worth. 
 

Course I don’t know and am not trying to say I am right and you are wrong. Just my perception of things. 

It’s not really hardball. Teams do the same with the fifth year. If Coker is invaluable and a solid WR, we’ll give him an extension with a signing bonus (for the immediate money) but the extension usually starts after/includes the RFA year. 

[electro's horse]

6 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

It’s not really hardball. 

What else do you call forcing a player to risk life and limb playing with Bryce for a year for chump change 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

What else do you call forcing a player to risk life and limb playing with Bryce for a year for chump change 

Business as usual in the NFL. There's a reason why ERFAs never sign big long-term contracts. It's because there's no pressing need. The team controls their rights for the next two seasons as long as they tender them. Don't commit long-term until you have to. It sucks for the player but it's just rhe business of the NFL. Even if you're totally sold on the player anyone can suffer a career ending or altering injury at any time so until you have to commit long-term you're better off not. 

[Gapanthersfan]

Intelligent, big, strong receivers who run good routes, know how to get open, catch damn near every ball thrown their way and come up clutch in big moments don’t sign for cheap and barring injury have very long and successful NFL careers. I sincerely hope Dan and co recognize what they have. 

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Intelligent, big, strong receivers who run good routes, know how to get open, catch damn near every ball thrown their way and come up clutch in big moments don’t sign for cheap and barring injury have very long and successful NFL careers. I sincerely hope Dan and co recognize what they have. 

They already let him walk once lol

[CPcavedweller]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

I agree. At the moment he's our best receiver and he should get a new contract fitting his production. Pay the man.

Because he played well against man coverage which he saw quite infrequently?

The lack of man coverage hints something else to me: teams do not respect the Panthers passing game. We all know this, but seeing it in data is interesting. 

I'd hate to let Bryce go and see him blossom elsewhere but I can't help but think that all this team is missing is an efficient quarterback who can just execute. 

[electro's horse]

4 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Because he played well against man coverage which he saw quite infrequently?

The lack of man coverage hints something else to me: teams do not respect the Panthers passing game. 

Puca is right at the same rate.

I think it just means both offenses are good at moving them around and hiding them in bunch formations etc. 

[strato]

4 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Because he played well against man coverage which he saw quite infrequently?

The lack of man coverage hints something else to me: teams do not respect the Panthers passing game. We all know this, but seeing it in data is interesting. 

I'd hate to let Bryce go and see him blossom elsewhere but I can't help but think that all this team is missing is an efficient quarterback who can just execute. 

On offense, yes I agree that we are missing good QB play.

He has not shown he can throw us out of being made one dimensional, against good defenses. The ones that can clamp our run game down.

He has had a few legit decent games and a couple three really good games. Problem is, he started 17 games. 

[Gapanthersfan]

9 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

They already let him walk once lol

The list of ones this org let walk in just the last few years is staggeringly depressing. 

[strato]

10 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

The list of ones this org let walk in just the last few years is staggeringly depressing. 

Shorten the list to two (or three) QBs and it does that job. 

[Gapanthersfan]

5 minutes ago, strato said:

Shorten the list to two (or three) QBs and it does that job. 

It’s insane. Some would have never stayed regardless, but the talent sieve is real. 
 

Baker, Sam, Luvu, Butker, Reddick, CMC, DJ, Joe Brady. I’m sure there’s more, but that’s all I can come up with right now.

I sincerely hope Coker isn’t next. Just imagine him going somewhere like the Patriots or Saints.