BREAKING: Panthers adding to coaching staff

[outlaw4]

3 hours ago, t96 said:

I seem to recall Seahawks fans back in the day talking about this guy like we used to talk about Mike Shula. Not sure what to think of this

I recall Seahawks fans were quite happy to see Bevell fired, so... yeah.

I was also going to say that it's hiring someone Canales already knows and whether that's helpful in bringing in new ideas, but then there's the whole deal with how Reich's staff was assembled with people he had less connections with and how that turned out.

[strato]

10 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its a great move IMO, feels like a compromise between DC and morgan.  "You can keep calling plays but we have another option if things dont improve"

I agree. Good maneuvering by Dan to have it addressed this way. There may be a way to get Canales to be better at what he is weak on  just with some competent help.

If not, plan B is ready to hit the ground running. 

 

[strato]

8 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

I recall Seahawks fans were quite happy to see Bevell fired, so... yeah.

I was also going to say that it's hiring someone Canales already knows and whether that's helpful in bringing in new ideas, but then there's the whole deal with how Reich's staff was assembled with people he had less connections with and how that turned out.

Alignment between the key people is always what you strive to have. 

The Seahawks fans were no doubt butt hurt over that SB goal line play. You know yourself we have fans that one mistake like that totally defines all future prospects with a player or coach. Every base has them.

I will just cite the recent experience in Miami as a positive. He worked closely with a leading offensive mind, and a fuging project QB like we have here. 

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[Jon Snow]

3 hours ago, strato said:

I don’t know how you know, it could be both Canales and Morgan. But it speaks well of Dan I think, I smell some awareness that there is an issue around Canales’ wearing all these hats.
 

Unless Canales went to him and did the mea culpa, I would think Dan had a candid discussion with Dave and Dave, to his credit, saw the issue too. 

Was it, “hey Bevell is out there on the vine right now for the taking, can he help us?”, or was it “we both agree we need help in this department, who could we get?”? 

It makes a difference whether it was a suggestion or a memo to Canales in this case. I'm not sure what to make of it honestly. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

It makes a difference whether it was a suggestion or a memo to Canales in this case. I'm not sure what to make of it honestly. 

I think its dan patting Dave on the head and saying "let me get you some help lil buddy"

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think its dan patting Dave on the head and saying "let me get you some help lil buddy"

I like that even less. I hope there's a plan at the coaches position when this coming season is over. I have little faith this ends in a positive way. 

[strato]

12 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It makes a difference whether it was a suggestion or a memo to Canales in this case. I'm not sure what to make of it honestly. 

There’s no way we are gonna know, if they address it it will be portrayed as a mutual decision, most likely.  Whether it was 80-20 ‘mutual’ or 50-50 mutual. 
 

One thing I believe is encouraging is they know they have to do better and probably have a good enough rapport where this can be candidly discussed. I doubt this was forced on Canales. Yeah it could have been I just don’t think it was 100-0  

 

 

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[ProcessBlue2]

9 hours ago, PanthersNCSU said:

Needed someone, so I'm at least happy that the team made the move and didn't let Canales continue down the same path. Bevell has worked with short QBs and limited QBs, so, welcome home!

As for Brad Idzik...what is it that you do here? 

Film Study With Dave

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[csx]

I wouldn't make much if this either way. 

[lumbeecheraw75]

4 hours ago, strato said:

I don’t see it that way.  There is common ground from Seattle with  Morgan, I think, and Canales and probably Idzik too - without looking it up. 
Canales worked for Bevell, having a guy there that has done your same job can really be a good thing. As that guy knows the job and has a perspective that someone like Idzik has yet to acquire. 
 

I put it this way, if you have done the same job you can be a better employee or assistent to the guy in it now. It is a personal anecdotal conclusion as I was an employee, and then a boss for pretty good while and when that ended and I was an employee again elsewhere, I was much better at it than I had been in my earlier employee days. 
 

The only way it could be bad on its face, to me,  is if Bevell is out to steal the HC job, to undermine. Which I can’t assume is true. 
 

I do feel like Caldwell is likely pretty worthless. Capers slightly less so because he was brought in to help Evero who is still here. Not sure who Caldwell was brought in to mentor. It wasn’t Canales. I doubt we need either. 

Caldwell is a holdover from Reich's staff

[TheSpecialJuan]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think its dan patting Dave on the head and saying "let me get you some help lil buddy"

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I like that even less. I hope there's a plan at the coaches position when this coming season is over. I have little faith this ends in a positive way. 

Me too. DC has always seemed to be slow at recognizing the obvious. If this is just another example, you gotta ask yourself should Canales even be a HC right now.