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A pretty insane QB stat

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18 hours ago, toldozer said:

All I know is you cannot pay Bryce 50 million a year. If he has a solid year next year I think the most prudent thing to do would be trade him and let someone else do it.

panthers beinf the panthers if byoung finishes anywhere above bottom 5 qbs in the nfl they gonna pay him as a top ten qb and lock him into a long term deal just to punish the panther fans for being panther fans

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On 2/20/2026 at 12:11 PM, NAS said:

How many made it to the SB?  Cam was drafted #1 and almost won, do we think he wasn't worth the pick?  lol  

Same with Joe Burrow.  

It’s a stupid weird stat. Here’s some of the stuff that messes up:

1. It ignores the 3 SBs won since 2000 by QBs drafted before 2000. It also ignores the 8 SBs won by 1st rounders drafted outside the top 5. That’s 42% of the SB winners right there.

2. As you mentioned, the SB winner clause removes 8 top 5 lost SBs and 5 1st rounders drafted outside losses, which is 50% of all SBs since 2000.

3. You also have the SB for Nick Foles that absolutely gets and asterisk because top a top 5 Eagles draft pick was an MVP candidate at 11-2 with 33TDs. If Wentz doesn’t have that amazing season, the Eagles aren’t the #1 seed. It’s like the Hostetler SB win that ignores what Simms did. Foles doesn’t win that SB if he played the entire year.

4. Tom Brady won 23% of the SBs by himself and lost 3 of the 26. He’s the exception that proves the rule.

The funny part is that outside of Brady, the list of SB winners and losers is basically 1st round QBs, including some traded guys.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's only a stupid stat if you're desperately clinging to the idea that the only way to find a SB caliber QB is in the top 5 of the draft. I get it, it hits some people right on the feels but it is what it is.

What it really proves is you don't have to sell the future to go up to 1 to get a QB. Finding a QB with the tools and having a good coach/system in place makes more impact than draft rankings. 

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7 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

What it really proves is you don't have to sell the future to go up to 1 to get a QB. Finding a QB with the tools and having a good coach/system in place makes more impact than draft rankings. 

Its been laid out here numerous times what a team would look like with cMC, DJ, Carter, and what other draft assets we gave away.   Fitt and co panicked and the only person that wanted to pumped the brakes was samir and he was fired.  I said all along stay at 9 and see what happened then make a decision, then we made the move it should have been stroud. Oh well lets hope for a miracle this season

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