Is tackle out the window at 19?

[micnificent28]

According to Joe person's latest conversation with canales that looks like it could be the case unless you believe we sound Walker as a backup which I doubt he would agree to?

[SmokinwithWilly]

I don't believe in hiring coaches that don't get an interview request from another team but it is what it is. 

Edited 2 hours ago by SmokinwithWilly

[firefox1234]

BPA is the pick.

[jfra78]

19 minutes ago, firefox1234 said:

BPA is the pick.

Only if it's a starter

[LinvilleGorge]

I get it. When you have obvious pressing needs you're ideally looking for a starter at #19. Obviously you draft for depth later in the draft but you want early impact out of your early picks. The context of that quote was the 19th overall pick.

The other thing to note is that this is also peak lying season. You don't want to telegraph your intentions. Even if we were seriously considering or even targeting OT at 19 the smart move would be to downplay it. Virtually everyone expected us to go pass rusher in the 1st last year and lo and behold we go WR which very few people were talking about as a legit possibility. 

[MHS831]

The more I research this draft, the more I think this:

All of the tackles are developmental. I think, if you have a proven veteran at LT and a solid player (with a knee at 32?) at RT, you go ahead and draft players who might be a year away. They can serve as depth while working for a shot to start.

In my opinion, based on the sites I rely on for draft info--there are players who could fall to day 3 who have issues to work out but have demonstrated success on the college level.  Here are the OTs I am watching:

Jude Bowery, BC.

Aamil Wagner, ND

Isiah World, Ore

D. Crownover, TexAM

Isaiah Jatta, BYU

(I really like the first two)

 

[chknwing]

like duh.  no team drafts for depth in the 1st round

 

Joe Person "Water is wet"

Edited 1 hour ago by chknwing

[45catfan]

30 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Only if it's a starter

At #19, you get a fringe starter, so I guess Dave and Dan are moving up?

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, chknwing said:

like duh.  no team drafts for depth in the 1st round

 

Joe Person "Water is wet"

It's why I hated the Butler and Shaq picks. When we made those picks, DT and LB were probably our strongest position groups and we looked past huge needs to make luxury picks for depth and future development. Now if we'd drafted guys who developed into perennial All Pros, all good. But that's kinda what you need to justify those types of luxury picks. Some would argue that Shaq justified it. I wouldn't. Just because we ended up paying him like an All Pro doesn't mean he was an All Pro (note: he wasn't). Butler was an outright bust which makes it a really tough pill to swallow for a luxury pick.

[45catfan]

24 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The more I research this draft, the more I think this:

All of the tackles are developmental. I think, if you have a proven veteran at LT and a solid player (with a knee at 32?) at RT, you go ahead and draft players who might be a year away. They can serve as depth while working for a shot to start.

In my opinion, based on the sites I rely on for draft info--there are players who could fall to day 3 who have issues to work out but have demonstrated success on the college level.  Here are the OTs I am watching:

Jude Bowery, BC.

Aamil Wagner, ND

Isiah World, Ore

D. Crownover, TexAM

Isaiah Jatta, BYU

(I really like the first two)

 

Wagner played both sides, i believe, but settled in at RT.  I'll take the RT that can play both sides if the play on the right side is on par with a couple other guys in question.  That's the tie breaker.

[firefox1234]

Doesn’t sound like any position is ruled out.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, firefox1234 said:

Doesn’t sound like any position is ruled out.

He specifically didn't say LB. I'd make note of that. Very well could indicate that's the target position. 

[45catfan]

Y'all are acting like Walker is a All-Pro on a 4 year deal.  He's a rent-a-tackle on a one-year deal that got past over in FA until we snagged him.  There are worse things than having a $4M back up left tackle if he gets beat out.  Even if he doesn't get beat out by a hypothetical LT rookie, at least said rookie wouldn't get thrown to the wolves and can be eased into the League. Walker also has a injury history.  Who says he stays healthy all season?

[micnificent28]

22 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

At #19, you get a fringe starter, so I guess Dave and Dan are moving up?

Not at all you got a day one starter and Nick squirting in the second round last year so how's the top 19 player a frig starter? I think rounds one and two you're looking at opening day starters potentially