Panthers HC Dave Canales hints at adding more weapons for QB Bryce Young

[shaqattaq]

22 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

If Bryce is going to thrive, the #Panthers need to build the offense around what he does well

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7 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Only if the OT has the grade. Some of you seem to be forgetting that the value HAS to be there, or what the hell are we doing?

Most of what I see it would be nice to trade back a few slots and still get. 
I want to put the investment into the fronts though. That is where the game is controlled. 
 

People seem to want to make Bryce into a Stafford or something. Air Young. 
He is a game manager. People want to give him all this help, but if you really want to help him then build a team that can support a game manager. That means control the LOS, first order of business. 

 

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

XL should feel like crap.  Anyone with his skills should be successful by now.  Instead, we need 3 quality WRs that other teams fear.  If not, TMac gets doubled.  Coker?  does not really run the entire route tree.  We need 3...

He is a beast.  Everyone has given up on him though. . 

[micnificent28]

Made a whole thread about sadiq weeks ago as the most logical pick if he's available and every just said no defense defense defense and Bryce sucks we need a Qb lol

[TD alt]

4 minutes ago, strato said:

Most of what I see it would be nice to trade back a few slots and still get. 
I want to put the investment into the fronts though. That is where the game is controlled. 
 

People seem to want to make Bryce into a Stafford or something. Air Young. 
He is a game manager. People want to give him all this help, but if you really want to help him then build a team that can support a game manager. That means control the LOS, first order of business. 

 

Our O-line is pretty good on paper, and our D-line should be good in theory. We should be able to control the LOS (at least good enough for someone on the team to go off). We have put plenty of resources into the defense the last couple of offseasons.

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[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Our O-line is pretty good on paper, and our D-line should be good in theory. We should be able to control the LOS (at least good enough for someone on the team to go off). We have put plenty of resources into the defense the last couple of offseasons.

Our starting oline looks good on paper.  Even that is a bit of a reach given the additions, age and injuries.  Problem is when someone inevitably goes down we are going to relying on some dude named Stone to step in.   The Icky injury and the timing of it really mess up the overall plan for this team.  I like walker but only as a stop gap and hopefully he returns to prior form.  We just are a team with no depth anywhere.  Its kindof wild when you think about it

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6 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Our O-line is pretty good on paper, and our D-line should be good in theory. We should be able to control the LOS (at least good enough for someone on the team to go off). We have put plenty of resources into the defense the last couple of offseasons.

We haven’t used a first on the defense since  Bryce was here. And only one 2nd. 
If you look at what went into the offense, just to get Bryce alone was a fortune, they still owe that defense. 
 

And if Icky had not have happened I would be posting in caps that we need to spend the 1st pick on the D. It kills me not to do it, but that injury shifted everything. 

 

[TD alt]

36 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Our starting oline looks good on paper.  Even that is a bit of a reach given the additions, age and injuries.  Problem is when someone inevitably goes down we are going to relying on some dude named Stone to step in.   The Icky injury and the timing of it really mess up the overall plan for this team.  I like walker but only as a stop gap and hopefully he returns to prior form.  We just are a team with no depth anywhere.  Its kindof wild when you think about it

Nah, dude. The only one that's actually long in the tooth is Not on, and he ain't even done yet. If Icky can't come back, then Walker will be extended. Walker is after all a better pass defender. We're not necessarily at the point where we need to be drafting first rounders who would likely be sitting on the bench; day two or three guys that can be developed could fill that need. 

[TD alt]

39 minutes ago, strato said:

We haven’t used a first on the defense since  Bryce was here. And only one 2nd. 
If you look at what went into the offense, just to get Bryce alone was a fortune, they still owe that defense. 
 

And if Icky had not have happened I would be posting in caps that we need to spend the 1st pick on the D. It kills me not to do it, but that injury shifted everything. 

 

Dude, we just invested in two past first rounders on defense. Sure, we didn't draft them, but we acquired them in free agency. And it's not like Mike Jack is some bum out there.

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[SmokinwithWilly]

47 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Our starting oline looks good on paper.  Even that is a bit of a reach given the additions, age and injuries.  Problem is when someone inevitably goes down we are going to relying on some dude named Stone to step in.   The Icky injury and the timing of it really mess up the overall plan for this team.  I like walker but only as a stop gap and hopefully he returns to prior form.  We just are a team with no depth anywhere.  Its kindof wild when you think about it

Relying on a guy that couldn't stay on the Raiders offensive line as our primary backup is beyond scary. 

[Basbear]

19 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Yet we mocked you.  Look who's laughing now!

I am still not TE warm, but I sense they might take a duck.  He would change the offensive packages more than any other position, imo.  

 

 

Long as Im right, mock away!!

TE only has one choice and that's if he's even still ava. I told you this panthers team is IN for this year and watchout for WR cause it is valued and the top pool is deep. I believe some including yourself took note(hell I think I @ you to share), now the HC re-firms my crystal ball isn't crack'd...

The wild card in all is the new bevell, I think hes already swinging a big stick and they are going to change some things. Mike saved tua from the same spot BY is in.....Bevell has a wealth of exp and ideas across many different systems including the one that turned Tua into a MVP candidate. 

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[Basbear]

3 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Too bad the tackles offset all that

Gross was still good for a couple years and 1.5 of oher was solid.........uhhhhhh guess Im going to get shot on this Bell was not half bad as RT, fire away. Sure not a good LT, RT was average-ok league wise, imo. Chandler had no business on Offense, but that was herniay parting gift no cap space. 

I bet you also forget Williams was a good RT until the injury then Motown stepped into his RT spot. But for years Williams was good.

gross/other -- white buffalo -- Kalil -- turner --williams/motown

That's petty dang good my fren!!

Chandler and Matt Kalil were full fails, but OL has 5 players....Most times cam had 4 solid-great ones and one that needed TE help at times. 

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1 hour ago, TD alt said:

Dude, we just invested in two past first rounders on defense. Sure, we didn't draft them, but we acquired them in free agency. And it's not like Mike Jack is some bum out there.

And it was about time. Precious little had been done. Scourton and Princely last year. A 2nd and a 3rd.

That almost levels out what was spent on Bryce alone. Almost. So okay, you are caught up there. Not counting DJ and allowing a 3rd to wash that 2nd 2nd rounder we paid to draft him. 
Then, you can start with extra 1st and 2nds to tally that up. 

And further, if we spend the 19 on offense this year, it makes 5 straight years (!) of denying the defense a 1st round contributor. I don’t see how you can argue that and don’t know why you would. 

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[TD alt]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

And it was about time. Precious little had been done. Scourton and Princely last year. A 2nd and a 3rd.

That almost levels out what was spent on Bryce alone. So okay, you are caught up there. 
If we spend the 19 on offense this year, it makes 5 straight years (!) of denying the defense a 1st round contributor. I don’t see how you can argue that and don’t know why you would. 

Phillips and Lloyd are "first round" contributors (like that makes all the difference). 

I'm not arguing anything except that it's not a recipe for success to draft based upon need. To me, and it's just my opinion, I don't know why someone would argue against any first rounder as long as they bring the value because that's actually what we should be looking for. To me, to go into a draft saying that we're going to draft an inferior player at a certain position and skip the player that is superior simply because it would be three times in a row is just silly considering that you still need to shore up the position.