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Biggest bust for every draft since 2000.

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5 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Especially when you factor what we gave up for him.

That dude absolutely crippled this franchise for a decade.

A decade?

We made the playoffs and are trending up.

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43 minutes ago, Car123 said:

We made the playoffs and are trending up.

This certainly needs some context. We had to have help from the Falcons just to win the division and managed to get swept by the Saints while finishing the season going 4-6.

As it stands now the division does not look like it will be as easy as it was last year and paired with our schedule it's safe to say if Bryce Young can't lead this passing offense to top 25 we'll be damn lucky to make the playoffs again. If it did happen I would have to imagine it would be heavily driven by our defense.

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6 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Especially when you factor what we gave up for him.

That dude absolutely crippled this franchise for a decade.

Set us back a few years but..a decade? lol what are you smoking man.

 

only 2000s move that’s come close to actually setting a team that far back wash owns trading for Deshaun, thankful we didn’t win that “sweepstakes” at least 

 

I know hyperbolic commiseration is all the rage here but no team in the NFL is more than a few years away from competing if they go about things right (“right” being the key word here)

just in the last few years see: Lions, Patriots, Broncos, Colts (pre DJ injury)

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29 minutes ago, Coheed said:

Set us back a few years but..a decade? lol what are you smoking man.

 

only 2000s move that’s come close to actually setting a team that far back wash owns trading for Deshaun, thankful we didn’t win that “sweepstakes” at least 

 

I know hyperbolic commiseration is all the rage here but no team in the NFL is more than a few years away from competing if they go about things right (“right” being the key word here)

just in the last few years see: Lions, Patriots, Broncos, Colts (pre DJ injury)

If they extend him…. could get to ten. 

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

I have this gut feeling they are going to extend him. Nothing they've done suggests otherwise. 

It seemed like a sentence, from day one. Punishment for something we did or didn’t do. I begged for parole, an appeal, got nothing. Years now. 
 

It’s like, we’ll find out this year. But, we are in the movie Groundhog Day. 


They have loaded up the offense and now given him his full time OC and given that OC a tutor. What is left to enhance? 
Aside from a receiving corps full of first rounders, that we may yet end up with.

If he doesn’t do it this year, the offense will labeled as young and green and that will be the excuse. 

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30 minutes ago, strato said:

It seemed like a sentence, from day one. Punishment for something we did or didn’t do. I begged for parole, an appeal, got nothing. Years now. 
 

It’s like, we’ll find out this year. But, we are in the movie Groundhog Day. 


They have loaded up the offense and now given him his full time OC and given that OC a tutor. What is left to enhance? 
Aside from a receiving corps full of first rounders, that we may yet end up with.

If he doesn’t do it this year, the offense will labeled as young and green and that will be the excuse. 

We are doomed to watch this experiment play out at least one more season.

I'm not sure Tepper can take any regression from last season as I think that will be the floor for this coaching staff.

I would like to think the expectation is double digit wins this season. But I'm not seeing it as things stand right now. 

There's a lot at stake for quite a few individuals on the team this season. I'm predicting Teppers patience will be severely tested. 

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53 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

We are doomed to watch this experiment play out at least one more season.

I'm not sure Tepper can take any regression from last season as I think that will be the floor for this coaching staff.

I would like to think the expectation is double digit wins this season. But I'm not seeing it as things stand right now. 

There's a lot at stake for quite a few individuals on the team this season. I'm predicting Teppers patience will be severely tested. 

I’ll believe it when I see it, as far as Tepper parting with Bryce. And I don’t how he could seriously think yet a third staff can unlock this QB. 

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1 hour ago, strato said:

I’ll believe it when I see it, as far as Tepper parting with Bryce. And I don’t how he could seriously think yet a third staff can unlock this QB. 

I'm thinking he parts ways with all of them, qb included. He will at minimum put pressure on Morgan to fix the situation if they don't finish first in the nfcs. I'm assuming they cannot back their way in 2 years in a row. 

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12 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Especially when you factor what we gave up for him.

That dude absolutely crippled this franchise for a decade.

The only reason it is has been so bad is because they refuse to address the position with any real competition since drafting Bryce. After year 2 we knew what we had and it was time, yet here we are going into year 4 and still scared to death to roster any QB that might make the little guy look bad. 

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6 hours ago, frankw said:

This certainly needs some context. We had to have help from the Falcons just to win the division and managed to get swept by the Saints while finishing the season going 4-6.

As it stands now the division does not look like it will be as easy as it was last year and paired with our schedule it's safe to say if Bryce Young can't lead this passing offense to top 25 we'll be damn lucky to make the playoffs again. If it did happen I would have to imagine it would be heavily driven by our defense.

That is the exact scenario. If we manage to make the playoffs in the upcoming season it will be off a strong D dragging the pitiful offense behind like an anchor. 

Then people will still talk about how Bryce is a "playoff QB" 

i could see us winning enough if the D is up to it, but i expect a step back and a 6 win season in all likelihood. 

Last season we were 27th in points scored and yards for the season, we arent going to keep doing that and going to the playoffs, either Bryce has to actually improve ( lol ) or we have to get a new QB. 

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19 hours ago, frankw said:

This certainly needs some context. We had to have help from the Falcons just to win the division and managed to get swept by the Saints while finishing the season going 4-6.

As it stands now the division does not look like it will be as easy as it was last year and paired with our schedule it's safe to say if Bryce Young can't lead this passing offense to top 25 we'll be damn lucky to make the playoffs again. If it did happen I would have to imagine it would be heavily driven by our defense.

It did not set us back a decade.

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1 hour ago, Car123 said:

It did not set us back a decade.

We gave up three first round picks for him - and he gift wrapped the #1 overall pick for the Bears in the process.

Imagine if we still had Moore, whoever you want from #10 downwards in 2023, whoever you want from #1 downwards in 2024.

You could literally have Drake Maye throwing to Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Moore. 

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