Look at the WRs in recent drafts around 19

[Navy_football]

7 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

I really really dobt care if they drsft another receiver in the first. If he's  BPA, YOU DO IT!

Whether of not you like Bryce, the team needs playmaker. Better to have them regardless whom is the QB. 

Can't believe I'm reading we shouldn't draft offensive playmaker because of Bryce. I understand you dont like him, but openly rooting for him to fail is horrible. 

I'm with you. Get the best player on your board at a position of need, where he'll start or have opportunities to make significant contributions to the team - this season. Same for second round. Third round is where you can maybe start to think about projects for the future. Kind of like Princely last year. 

Can't believe everyone is so against a WR in the first because of Xavier Legette. He was the 32nd pick (the last pick of the first) and really not a first round talent. So if they waited until the 33rd pick, then it would be ok? Now if they would have drafted McConkey, then this wouldn't make sense. Then again, it wouldn't be a position of need. 

[mrcompletely11]

48 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I'm with you. Get the best player on your board at a position of need, where he'll start or have opportunities to make significant contributions to the team - this season. Same for second round. Third round is where you can maybe start to think about projects for the future. Kind of like Princely last year. 

Can't believe everyone is so against a WR in the first because of Xavier Legette. He was the 32nd pick (the last pick of the first) and really not a first round talent. So if they waited until the 33rd pick, then it would be ok? Now if they would have drafted McConkey, then this wouldn't make sense. Then again, it wouldn't be a position of need. 

Its not that cut and dry.  How does Bpa work postitionally?  You telling me a wr3 is a better fit for this roster than a starting Dtackle, safety or corner?  Nah its doesnt work like that

[Tr3ach]

11 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I am just hoping for a first-rounder who can catch and knows where the sidelines are.  

Best they can do is a 5th year option.

[MHS831]

20 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its not that cut and dry.  How does Bpa work postitionally?  You telling me a wr3 is a better fit for this roster than a starting DTackle, safety or corner?  Nah it doesn't work like that

Yes.  Need increases the appeal, as does depth of talent at the position.  If you need a QB and there is a G who rates much higher, you are not taking G, for example.  I also think you must consider the cap.  If I can keep my QB on a rookie contract (since the position is not factored in) when the average QB in the NFL earns $35m (guess), as opposed to the average guard ($10m or so) I get more cap room--and the upgrades to those players must factor into the decision.  It is easy to say "BPA" if you are wearing blinders, but if get a QB on a rookie deal and a guard and tight end in free agency....it makes no difference if the Guard is predicted to be a hall of famer--you take the Qb.  (these are just examples)

[Navy_football]

45 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its not that cut and dry.  How does Bpa work postitionally?  You telling me a wr3 is a better fit for this roster than a starting Dtackle, safety or corner?  Nah its doesnt work like that

In year 1 and 2? Yes.

There is no real speed on this team offensively. Not saying anyone is slow. But they're more "fast enough" than actually fast.

Plus 3 of the last 5 OROYs have been WRs. They were all 1st rounders. Remember who was neck and neck with TMac for OROY last season? Egbuka. He was WR3 for the Bucs. 

 

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[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

In year 1 and 2? Yes.

There is no real speed on this team offensively. Not saying anyone is slow. But they're more "fast enough" than actually fast.

Plus 3 of the last 5 OROYs have been WRs. They were all 1st rounders. Remember who was neck and neck with TMac for OROY last season? Egbuka. He was WR3 for the Bucs. 

 

Egbuka was not a 3

[frankw]

14 hours ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

And Amon Ra St. Brown was a 4th rounder it's all irrelevant.....

This year crop on WR seems pretty deep and if we draft a WR 3yrs running in the 1st RD that's some pathetic sh*t not being able to find talent elsewhere 

Unfortunately you just can't get through to some of these folks.

The most successful season in Panthers history our #1 WR was Ted Ginn Jr who had just as many bone headed drops as he did highlight touchdowns.

We already have the highest paid OL in the league two years running. We need a balanced roster more than anything else clearly.

[strato]

We for sure need to get a couple of rookie contracts on that OL. Looking 2 years out, 80% or more could be new compared to 2025. 
I think Hunt and Moton are prime targets for planned obsolescence. Icky, can’t be counted on and C is already going to be different. 
 

As far as receivers, Coker should be enough to demonstrate that every one of them does not need to come from the 1st round. 

[frankw]

This franchise invested through the nose to draft Bryce Young and has invested through the nose to try and throw anything including the kitchen sink at trying to make him look like a top 25 passer. The suggestion that the mere existence of skepticism of sinking three consecutive first round picks at WR and that maybe there could be a better alternative path later in the draft amounts to not liking him or rooting for him to fail is outrageous.

At the end of the day this conversation wouldn't be nearly as contentious if Xavier Legette were not looking like he's more concerned with his social media presence than his career as a wide receiver. But the unfortunate truth is Dan Morgan and Bryce Young's own father wanted him here and they got him. In the meantime we have needs across the roster.

[Navy_football]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Egbuka was not a 3

Ok. But that was only because of injury. They already had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Jalen McMillan (not to mention Bucky). They drafted Egbuka and Tez last year. 

Carolina currently has TMac and Coker. After that there's XL, David Moore, Jimmy Horn and Tremayne. Coker is injured as much or more than Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. 

[Navy_football]

Think you guys are missing the point here. Don't think anyone is saying that a WR has to definitely be drafted at 19. I think we all are saying they shouldn't remove the position as an option if he's BPA, since it really is a position of need. As much as backup OT, backup DT, or FS. 

And technically XL was a 2nd and 5th. They traded up from 33 to 32 for the 5th year option. They gave up 33 and 141 for 32 (XL) and 200. Made sense at the time. They just picked the wrong WR. 

[frankw]

14 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Made sense at the time.

These famous last words could be our franchise motto.

[Navy_football]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

These famous last words could be our franchise motto.

Yeah... right play, bad execution. 

[TD alt]

12 hours ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

Nice elaboration

I still believe you cant keep investing that type of draft capital in a position dependent on a QB that cant carry the team. BY nor this team is built like that. 

Not to mention not a single team in the HISTORY of the NFL has drafted WR in the 1st rd in 3 consecutive years! Would a Tepper led team be the dumbest and first to do it? Possibly unfortunately

You draft the BPA, the highest graded person on your board, period! It doesn't matter what the position is. It doesn't matter if it's three times in a row, particularly when you need a WR--particularly when one of them hasn't worked out. What you and others are suggesting from one perspective is to draft for need--exclude an entire position just because it's the first round, even though that position should rightly be in play just like all the other positions that could provide a valuable upgrade to your team, just because you drafted them in the first round for two seasons in a row. I hate to be blunt and it may appear disrespectful (but it's really not) but in my opinion that's just nonsensical. You draft the BPA/BAP regardless of any arbitrary notions because that's what leads to success, and that you used free agency to set yourself up so that you could do that very thing. That's just the way that I see it 

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