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2 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Blows my mind how you could watch that Ohio State Georgia game and not take CJ. He's regressed but I think it's in part to them giving him the Cam and Burrow treatment of gutting their O-line 

CJ took a career LOW number of sacks last year. But the year before he took 53 or something like that. It's the problem I saw with him in college. If he gets hit or thinks he's going to get hit, he sees ghosts. I maintain that the Georgia game was a fluke. Bryce's shortcomings are physical, CJ's are mental. It was like this pre-draft. It continues to be true now.

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5 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

CJ took a career LOW number of sacks last year. But the year before he took 53 or something like that. It's the problem I saw with him in college. If he gets hit or thinks he's going to get hit, he sees ghosts. I maintain that the Georgia game was a fluke. Bryce's shortcomings are physical, CJ's are mental. It was like this pre-draft. It continues to be true now.

Yeah well we've already been through that with Sam and Baker. I know which road I'd prefer to go down if the choice is mental vs physical. Also I don't buy that Bryce has some super processor. Only thing he seems to process quickly is when he knows he can't physically make a throw so throws the ball away instead of risking an int

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Tepper, even tho the team.....after 8 season finally seems moving in the right forward plane. 

 

You could also make a choice about changing the HC when you had prime Cam, Olsen, Gross, KK, Luke, TD, Star, pre-gun hardy, Norman, Jstew, Dwill, Turner, White Buffalo, Smitty in order to win 1-3 SBs but RR like Fox was missing the SB gene...broncos knew it and .....ugh.

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14 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Yeah well we've already been through that with Sam and Baker. I know which road I'd prefer to go down if the choice is mental vs physical. Also I don't buy that Bryce has some super processor. Only thing he seems to process quickly is when he knows he can't physically make a throw so throws the ball away instead of risking an int

First reaction is yeah Bryce processed the hell out of those 4th down throwaways. 

You have to go with big boy talent and try and work through the rest. Imagine if we had given Sam 4 years, 3 in the same system, with the same investment in his weapons and protection. 
 

 

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14 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

This is my answer. 

It was 100% Stoopid then and still now. A 80 year NFL owner makes comments about women and liken tight jeans, so what he now must sell the team, total hogwash. This was a classic of other NFL owners not liking how JR bullys them in owner meetings. No chance Id sell over that nothing burger. Sue me, Id have soooo much blackmail on other owner and the NFL, please lets meet in a public court room for me to share.....Id hire a female lawyer and request she wears skin tight blue jeans for my enjoyment.....

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56 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Yeah well we've already been through that with Sam and Baker. I know which road I'd prefer to go down if the choice is mental vs physical. Also I don't buy that Bryce has some super processor. Only thing he seems to process quickly is when he knows he can't physically make a throw so throws the ball away instead of risking an int

Bryce is undoubtedly mediocre to average at best in processing and decision making. He is in no way shape or form some mini Peyton Manning or a mental savant. And it is absurdly insulting that people are still simultaneously pretending otherwise while insinuating other QB's are basically mental midgets. Like man someone has to be really damn dug in to come post something like that 4 years in. The cope is real folks.

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1 hour ago, frankw said:

Bryce is undoubtedly mediocre to average at best in processing and decision making. He is in no way shape or form some mini Peyton Manning or a mental savant. And it is absurdly insulting that people are still simultaneously pretending otherwise while insinuating other QB's are basically mental midgets. Like man someone has to be really damn dug in to come post something like that 4 years in. The cope is real folks.

And don’t worry about Bryce he will be great… Peyton Manning had a horrible rookie year too 😂

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