The Cam Newton and Race Thread!

[raleigh-panther]

well here is some gas on the fire:

I want success - not showboating.

One could argue that Newton has been quite successful.

More successful in junior college and college than any of the Panthers quarterbacks, Collins through Clausen.

Was Joe Namath a showboat? Would you have called him cocky? He won a superbowl and made the Jets, significant.

Newton could be interesting and good for the Panthers. He could also fail. That is true of any draft prospect; but, what I've noticed is a lot of people talk about his 'football intelligence' or 'what is between his ears'.

I wonder, if those same people feel the same way about Ryan Mallet. If ever there is someone who smacks of stupidity when speaking, it's that kid.

As someone said earlier, I have never seen one prospect generate so much split discussion.

[TheRealDeal]

Mallett is a lot better than Barkley. I am sorry TRD. I like everything you say. Even if I don't admit it and give you a hard time. Barkley does not compare against Mallett.

Again too long to quote the whole thing.

One thing to consider is that Mallet's question marks are not his physical talents but his mental capacity. If he was even average mentally, he'd be the #1 QB this year no doubt and probably #2 next year but it doens't work that way.

He's only 2 inches taller, maybe 1, and played in a friendly offense so comparing stats isn't exactly accurate. USC is a run first, true pro style offense with Barkley under center a lot and handing the ball off. They listed 4 starting RBs, 4. USC was 25 in rushing while Arkansas was 59th.

So while Mallet put up the big numbers, Barkley played in a traditional pro offense and deferred to his teammates. He was under center for most of his throws and Mallet was in the shotgun.

Barkley was also the first true freshman to start the season under center at USC, a big time QB school. He also started all 4 years at his HS, a big QB high school in SoCal.

He has a great arm and great size for a QB but what will set him apart from Mallet is what is between his ears, how he has been prepared for the NFL and the intangibles he brings.

Barkley doesn't have any huge holes in his game and Mallet has at least one, maybe the biggest tool a QB needs to bring with him into the NFL.

[teeray]

Would this be an issue if he were say mexican...

Is he legal?

[Stumpy]

Is he legal?

That never stopped the MLB.

[Pox 08]

I'd cheer for Newton as I would any other qb on the roster, if we were to select him. Could care less about color.

I'm more concerned with all the hype Gabbert has been receiving. What is up with the some of the sports media? Before January, Gabbert was a nobody, none of us were really talking about him. Then all of a sudden a few draft gurus put him on their big boards and now, he's considered by a lot to be the #1 qb of this draft?

[Mr. Scot]

I'd cheer for Newton as I would any other qb on the roster, if we were to select him. Could care less about color.

I'm more concerned with all the hype Gabbert has been receiving. What is up with the some of the sports media? Before January, Gabbert was a nobody, none of us were really talking about him. Then all of a sudden a few draft gurus put him on their big boards and now, he's considered by a lot to be the #1 qb of this draft?

I don't want either of them, or any of the others.

But if that's who the Panthers take, then I'll hope that they're right and I'm wrong.

(and I have plenty of practice for that; I was doing it this time last year too)

[Mr. Scot]

Bleh, I was under the assumption that all meetings to discuss race included free beer.

*leaves thread*

I assumed it would be a combination discussion about Cam Newton and NASCAR.

[Squirrel]

Bring in Pat White. He is one of the most winning QB's in College football.

[Mr. Scot]

Bring in Pat White. He is one of the most winning QB's in College football.

And if you don't agree, it must be because you have a personal hatred for Pat White :rolleyes:

[Squirrel]

you would make a terrible gm

Well if I was a great GM I wouldnt be sitting here. But QB is such a big gamble why waste it on a first rounder? More Starting QB's in the NFL were drafted past the first round.

[Squirrel]

And if you don't agree, it must be because you have a personal hatred for Pat White :rolleyes:

No you are racist! Point is college means crap when evaluating for the NFL.

[Mr. Scot]

No you are racist! Point is college means crap when evaluating for the NFL.

But no one could possibly object to bringing White in for any practical football reasons. That's just unthinkable :nonod:

So it must mean if people don't want Pat White, they're either secret racists or have some personal vendetta against him.

After all, that's the only reason people are against Newton, right? Nobody could possibly disagree that he's the greatest prospect ever. It just has to be for personal reasons.

(the sad part is I wish I were making this stuff up, but that seems to be how people on here actually think) :frown2:

[Squirrel]

I will put it this way if we do draft Newton I dont want him starting this year or next. Not that I dont like him but that I like rookie QB's to sit for 3 years til they grasp the knowledge and speed of the NFL. Unfortunately in todays NFL that hardly happens.

[antame]

So long as we don't pick a white DB, WR, or RB I'm good.