Giddings of Pro Scout Inc: Panthers were 10th in Personnel

[mav1234]

On tonight's Panther's Pulse, Hurney brought in son of superscout Mike Giddings to talk about the Panthers. He works with his father as a professional scout evaluating all 32 teams. They use a unique evaluation system featuring a color coded system, as well as a numbered system. For more on that, see below.

I tried to take notes during the interview with him, but these are incomplete. Still thought they were interesting, and worth sharing.

Blue players are best; have ten or more blues to really compete is the goal.

Panthers personnel in 2010 were #10 in personnel. 22 starters, punter, kicker, return specialist, then take 8 defensive backups and 7 defensive backups. each player has color and numerical grade. When all numeric scores added up, Panthers were #10.

All teams have 8 needs that Pro Scouts Inc outlines, Panthers #1 need last year last year was QB, was not filled. if no QB you can win with or who can win for you, difficult to have consistency in getting to the playoffs.

Would say there is a quarterback on the roster that could win. If system fits Jimmy, capable of being a red(Solid Starter in this ranking system) quarterback. Had a positive line about what Moore showed in 2009. Hurney starts defending Clausen about how hard it is to be a rookie QB. Giddings adds young QBs usually have a good outlet TE that can move the chains, cites TB, NYJ, etc. At the end, it's mentioned that we just picked up Shockey.

Made me curious about Giddings' system so I did some digging and came across a funny link..

On Giddings' system, for those interested, including an article older than some (most? haha) posters on this board about the start of the system:

A blue player is a star or superstar, and any part of his anatomy or his technique so colored is likewise outstanding. A red is a solid starter. A gray means, "Don't quit on him now, but he doesn't match up with a red." An orange is a comer; he does some things that would make him a starter, others that don't match up. A green is a "forever backup," and a yellow is a CP, or Can't Play. There may be a plus or a minus attached to a color, or an arrow indicating "ascending" or "descending," meaning the player is on the rise or the wane. An orange ascending, for instance, means a young player getting better. An orange descending? Forget it.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1125863/index.htm#ixzz1IDuCXxPO

[Lumps]

They use a unique evaluation system featuring a color coded system, as well as a numbered system.

pie chart for each player, our expertise

[ncmonzta]

I know Hurney still wants Clausen. I hope this doesn't turn into another Jake affair.

[mav1234]

I think this really puts an emphasis on what Hurney and Rivera have been saying all along: yes, we have some holes, but we aren't as far off as some outside the organization think.

despite all our disagreement about Qbs lately I think we can all agree that this roster isn't complete poo and is not a decade from competing, thankfully.

I think I'm in the minority, but I do think a solid upgrade at QB could turn this team into a winning club capable of competing for the division immediately if Rivera's defensive billing lives up to the hype.

[TheRealDeal]

I think this really puts an emphasis on what Hurney and Rivera have been saying all along: yes, we have some holes, but we aren't as far off as some outside the organization think.

And what TheRealDeal has been saying all along. We aren't a typical 2-14 team.

[Sam Mills Fan]

I, for one, am SHOCKED that Hurney would invite a guest on his show that agreed with his notion that we have good players on the team....thusly making Hurney look great!

[mav1234]

And what TheRealDeal has been saying all along. We aren't a typical 2-14 team.

That's just because you are already factoring in how good we'll be when we draft Cam Newton. :D

[DaCityKats]

look at how many games we were in until bad QBing took over and lost the game for us.

[TheRealDeal]

That's just because you are already factoring in how good we'll be when we draft Cam Newton. :D

I actually think that makes us a worse team next year but that is for another thread.

If the right moves are made this offseason, we will contend for the playoffs next season.

[Jackofalltrades]

Rep for OP, great find and info.

[mav1234]

also, Giddings was really interesting to listen to. I was pissed they cut him off. He had a lot of cool stuff to say.

[mav1234]

If the right moves are made this offseason, we will contend for the playoffs next season.

I think this, too. While we are hampered by being in the division we are in, we've got a damn good D with just one or two upgrades.

[Jackofalltrades]

This is part of the reason I'd rather trade up with our picks, don't think we need that much help AND there's been no FA yet.

QB, two quality DT's, CB depending on Marshall, RT depending on Otah, sign current Fa's and I think we're in damn good shape.

[Catalyst]

I think this really puts an emphasis on what Hurney and Rivera have been saying all along: yes, we have some holes, but we aren't as far off as some outside the organization think.

What, you mean the guys on NFL Network are wrong when they say we need an upgrade at every single position? :eek: