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After Newton, there's little consensus on QB draft class

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http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81f0cbba/article/after-newton-theres-little-consensus-on-qb-draft-class?module=HP_cp2

This year's crop of draft-eligible quarterbacks is a flawed, but intriguing one. So let's start here, with what a very veteran NFC personnel executive told me on Wednesday night: "I'd be shocked if Cam isn't the first pick."

In case you've lived under a rock the last seven months, the "Cam" in question is Auburn quarterback Cam Newton, and momentum seems to be building in the direction he's the top overall pick by the Panthers. An AFC personnel man told me that of the top quarterbacks, Newton is the one he has a hard time seeing sliding in the draft.

"Would I be shocked if Cam slipped out of the Top 10?" he said. "I would be absolutely shocked."

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There's so much consensus in who is the #1 quarterback, half the articles disagree...

All of these guys have some huge question marks, Newton included... and that's precisely why we shouldn't go QB in this draft.

Nuh ugh!!!!

That is my new argument. :D

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Is this team guaranteed a top 3 draft pick net year, due to the lockout?

I've never understood the reasoning to drafting elsewhere this year, and magically picking up Luck the next.

Someone explain this to me.

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Is this team guaranteed a top 3 draft pick net year, due to the lockout?

I've never understood the reasoning to drafting elsewhere this year, and magically picking up Luck the next.

Someone explain this to me.

You don't need to draft in the top 3 to get a good quarterback out of the first round.

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You don't need to draft in the top 3 to get a good quarterback out of the first round.

That's all well and good, but what's guaranteeing that this team is going to be in a drafting position to grab one of these good QB's?

Is it due to the lockout, that the draft position stays the same? Or what?

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That's all well and good, but what's guaranteeing that this team is going to be in a drafting position to grab one of these good QB's?

Is it due to the lockout, that the draft position stays the same? Or what?

No. It's because teams have already shown you can draft a quarterback in the mid first round and have them end up doing fine, especially when you have a great defense to back them up. We'd have a great defense if we drafted D #1 overall this year. A DT would fill our biggest hole on that side of the ball and if the pick worked out, instantly transform our defense to the elite level. We're already good. Let's take it one step further.

Plus, you don't need to draft a QB #1 overall, or top 3, to get a great starter. A lot of people say Newton is the next Freeman or Big Ben... Okay, but look at where Freeman was drafted, Flacco, Big Ben, Drew Brees (IMO he might as well be considered late first round, lol), Aaron Rodgers. Sure, we may not be in a Green Bay situation, but the fact remains they found one of the best QBs in the NFL and he sure wasn't taken early.

If we go defense this year, we'll be competitive pretty damn quick assuming injuries don't ravage us again. So let's improve now, and go about building a solid foundation, we can then draft a prospect in the future and have them come into an established system and learn from a veteran and take over in time.

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This team won't be competitive with Clausen/Moore/whoever at QB. We might not even be with Newton either but at least you have something to build around. We have a new coaching staff coming in, it's a perfect time to draft a rookie QB.

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Honestly, in my opinion only Newton will become a starting and successful QB in the NFL and the only other guy that could possibly even become close to being a starter in the NFL is Blaine Gabbert and here is why I don't see that happening.

Blaine Gabbert- Unproven and really did not impress anyone with his on-field play but more of his performances at the Mizzou Pro Day and his private workouts. He just can't get it done on the field. In games that Mizzou lost, Gabbert was just absolutely horrible. In his three losses, he was a combined 71 for 129. With a Touchdown to Interception ratio of 2 to 3. An average rating of 95.67 and an average completion percentage of 51.6. Even in some of his best games he is missing receivers left and right and it doesn't help that he had to rely on his arm at Mizzou for over 3/4ths of the game as he averaged 37 passing attemts per game. In the NFL teams tend to use the ground game more than they do in college which is why I think Newton has a great shot at being a succesful starting QB. However, Gabbert is used to doing everything himself and probably would like to keep it that way which is just not going to happen.

However, I do see some QB's getting a chance and actually playing decently but not well enough to establish themselves as a franchise QB.

I Like

Cam Newton- Auburn (Has all the talent to become a great QB)

Christian Ponder- FSU (Very intelligent and smart player)

Colin Kaepernick- Nevada (Reminds of Cam Newton, not as moblie but a better pocket QB)

Andy Dalton- TCU (The Ginga Ninja is a great leader and a decent player as well)

Greg McElroy- Alabama (If he can stay healthy he can be a sold back-up in the NFL)

T.J. Yates- UNC (Great leader and has the ability to throw the long ball like no other)

Tyrod Taylor- Virginia Tech (If he can play like his predecesor Mike Vick then why not pick him up)

Taylor Potts- Texas Tech (Interesting prospect with decent potential)

I Don't Like

Blaine Gabbert- Mizzou (Unproven and not really great at any specific part of the QB position)

Jake Locker- Washington (Always a roller coaster with him at the helm)

Ryan Mallet- Arkansas (Drug Addicts/Dealers don't translate to NFL QB's)

Ricky Stanzi- Iowa (The most inconsistent player in the draft)

Scott Tolzien- Wisconsin (Has the worst arm strength I have ever seen)

Nathan Enderle- Idaho (When he is not on he plays like Jake Delhomme, see Nebraksa game)

Joshua Portis- California- PA (Probably has the worst character issues out of all QB's in the draft)

Pat Devlin- Delaware (Seems uninterested and unmotivated unlike is predecesesor Joe Flacco)

Adam Weber- Minnesota (Turnover machine)

Jerrod Johnson- Texas A&M (I don't make much of combine performances, but his was awful)

Mitch Mustain- USC (USC quarterbacks = NO, unless you are hispanic [Mark Sanchez] or actually good [Carson Palmer])

Ben Chappell- Indiana (Throws a lot of touchdowns, however he throws just as many interceptions)

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