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Cam Newton....

SorthNarolina

By SorthNarolina,
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I've been listening to a lot of stuff about Newton and Gabbert and here is my conclusion.

You take Gabbert #1 overall for a few reasons: (In no particular order)

1. Gabbert apparently blew coaches away with his knowledge of the game. His ability to diagram I heard was beyond what most QBs his age know and is on par with a pro QB. Scheming is a HUGE deal in the NFL and understanding it as a QB is half the battle. If he already has this down then IMO he is a lot farther along than anyone else. That reminds me of Ryan, Bradford, Manning, Rivers, and Roethlisberger coming out...They just get it.

2. The Wonderlic test isn't pointless. If it was then they would stop doing it. Gabbert scored a 42. Newton scored a 21. I'm not saying this separates a genius from a moron but it does give some indication of intelligence in comparison to other players.

3. 6'5'' 235. Not only does the guy apparently understand the stuff in the classroom, he has the frame to execute it on the field. I know everyone is talking about what a freak Newton is but I'll take Phillip Rivers or Matt Ryan over Mike Vick any day of the week and Vick is about as freakish as it comes.

4. It didn't take Gabbert 3 different schools to finally get his act together. Newton seems like a good guy and very enthusiastic about the game. But there is a big big difference between being enthusiastic about the game and being a great leader. I know I know I've heard all the stories about how he's the first one in and the last one to leave but IMO that should be a given with any QB. Hell thats probably a given with Jimmy Clausen and he blows.

I think Newton can be a good QB. I just don't think he will be better than Gabbert. I'm probably in the minority here but I would rather have Gabbert than Newton and I hope that Hurney, Rivera, and JR can see past the fact that Gabbert isn't a freak of nature QB and just draft the best football player.

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I've been listening to a lot of stuff about Newton and Gabbert and here is my conclusion.

You take Gabbert #1 overall for a few reasons: (In no particular order)

1. Gabbert apparently blew coaches away with his knowledge of the game. His ability to diagram I heard was beyond what most QBs his age know and is on par with a pro QB. Scheming is a HUGE deal in the NFL and understanding it as a QB is half the battle. If he already has this down then IMO he is a lot farther along than anyone else. That reminds me of Ryan, Bradford, Manning, Rivers, and Roethlisberger coming out...They just get it.

2. The Wonderlic test isn't pointless. If it was then they would stop doing it. Gabbert scored a 42. Newton scored a 21. I'm not saying this separates a genius from a moron but it does give some indication of intelligence in comparison to other players.

3. 6'5'' 235. Not only does the guy apparently understand the stuff in the classroom, he has the frame to execute it on the field. I know everyone is talking about what a freak Newton is but I'll take Phillip Rivers or Matt Ryan over Mike Vick any day of the week and Vick is about as freakish as it comes.

4. It didn't take Gabbert 3 different schools to finally get his act together. Newton seems like a good guy and very enthusiastic about the game. But there is a big big difference between being enthusiastic about the game and being a great leader. I know I know I've heard all the stories about how he's the first one in and the last one to leave but IMO that should be a given with any QB. Hell thats probably a given with Jimmy Clausen and he blows.

I think Newton can be a good QB. I just don't think he will be better than Gabbert. I'm probably in the minority here but I would rather have Gabbert than Newton and I hope that Hurney, Rivera, and JR can see past the fact that Gabbert isn't a freak of nature QB and just draft the best football player.

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2. The Wonderlic test isn't pointless. If it was then they would stop doing it. Gabbert scored a 42. Newton scored a 21. I'm not saying this separates a genius from a moron but it does give some indication of intelligence in comparison to other players.

Just to keep the record straight, Gabbert scored a 31 at the combine. The initial report of 42 was incorrect.

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I'm not sure why or how this happened, but after reading the 10,000th Cam Newton thread, I have magically been converted! If we had 5 1st round picks I'd use everyone on Cam Newton. Cam Newton is going to be Michael Jordan of football and I'm going to buy black, white and blue jersey's form me, my sons, my dogs, my neighbors cats, my dead goldfish....everyone around me is going to wear them so I can see his glorious name 24/7.....

Thank you so much for this thread. I'm now converted and will never look back!

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Just to keep the record straight, Gabbert scored a 31 at the combine. The initial report of 42 was incorrect.

Just to keep the record straight, nobody is sure what Gabbert scored at the combine. He scored a 42 the first time he took the Wonderlic before the combine and this is the number he reported to whoever it was. Leaked scores sometime later claimed a 31 - still a pretty good score. Mortensen also leaked 42, so depends who you believe.

Either way, it is likely Gabbert got "well above average" for a score, as opposed to "below average" for a score.

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Just to keep the record straight, nobody is sure what Gabbert scored at the combine. He scored a 42 the first time he took the Wonderlic before the combine and this is the number he reported to whoever it was. Leaked scores sometime later claimed a 31 - still a pretty good score. Mortensen also leaked 42, so depends who you believe.

Either way, it is likely Gabbert got "well above average" for a score, as opposed to "below average" for a score.

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