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1 minute ago, The Link said:

Jon seems like he isn't all there. Like a small part of him didn't come back, and the way he spoke to Mel made it seem as though he wished he hadn't been brought back in the first place.

I think he is becoming increasingly dejected with everyone. I saw signs of it even before he died, and his death is magnifying it for him. I mean, literally his own people stabbed him in the back. How would you handle coming back from that if not to hate everyone and have some pretty big trust issues?

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33 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Jon was beating Ramsey to death until he noticed Sansa watching him.

In that moment, Jon realized it was more appropriate for Sansa to preside over Ramsey's death (revenge for all the torture she endured at Bolton's hands).

Later, when Sansa asked Jon where Ramsey was being held,  Jon would have had to explain to Sansa his rational for placing Ramsey in the dog kennel rather than a dungeon or tower.

So it follows that Sansa would have been aware of Ramsey's threat to feed Jon and his compatriots to the dogs.

I mean there doesn't really have to be an explanation... and I'm sure you're right as to why Jon didn't just kill Ramsay there in the yard, but the edit cut made it seem like she just went straight to him... it's a minor nitpick.

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25 minutes ago, Darth Biscuit said:

I mean there doesn't really have to be an explanation... and I'm sure you're right as to why Jon didn't just kill Ramsay there in the yard, but the edit cut made it seem like she just went straight to him... it's a minor nitpick.

My wife and I made the very same comment about Sansa quoting Ramsey's dog eating comment you did, for what it is worth.

Watching it a second time to pick up on the more nuanced moments helped us draw our conclusions.

GOT providing only snapshots of complex events leads to much speculation.

The speculation is the hook that keeps me coming back for more.

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2 hours ago, Bronn said:

Oh CRA I think you're confused... Davos is saying "Tell him what you did to HER" not HIM... He is confronting her about burning Shireen Baratheon.

oh, that would make sense.  I must have misheard it. 

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Also, I think last night did a some foreshadowing and that we now know Sansa survives to the end of the show.

GOT isn't suppose to be a happy ending and one of the purposes of the original story was to for GRRM to write a story where the good guy doesn't always win.  I fully expect some form of reset at the end and for it to set up for the massive game to always exist. 

But I think Ramsay foreshadowed some future news prior to his death.  He is part of Sansa now.

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God what a terrible episode. Probably the worst one of the series unfortunately. They didn't even get the dragon colors correct am I right?! Sloppy writing to me personally. How Jon didn't die in that battle is beyond me!! Not realistic at all. Should have died when he was getting trampled. How convenient the Knights of the Vale that have been in the area for most of the season JUST HAPPEN to show up when it's looking the worst for Jon. Shitty writing smh. 

This is my opinion and if you disagree with any of it you are probably just some film school nerd 

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34 minutes ago, CRA said:

But I think Ramsay foreshadowed some future news prior to his death.  He is part of Sansa now.

That crossed my mind but I think it's stupid if they do it. First of all the excuse I've heard for the instant traveling between the Vale and Wall is that they were time jumps. So that means it's about 6 months after she was last with Ramsay.

Also it's just a stupid idea in general. And she could just drink some moon tea.

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