Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

John Fox thinks we pass on Cam Newton

Lout

By Lout,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

Jackofalltrades Proficient

Jackofalltrades

Posted
Posted

So John Fox thinks we won't take Newton and you think his opinion is worth something. But Gruden thinks we will take Newton and you think his opinion is worthless despite both having about the same track record as far as QBs go.

This should be easy to understand.

1. Fox wasn't critiquing Newton, just commenting that he didn't see him here

2. Fox sent 9 years here with Hurney, knows him as well as anyone in the league would, made decisions together, knows his philosophy, knows JR's philosophy and has no real incentive to hold back when talking about the Panthers now.

3. Gruden has never been associated with Hurney or the Panthers on top of never developing a good QB or drafting a good QB. Coincidence that TB lands a legit QB once Gruden is gone? I don't think so.

Yes, this is far more credible than Gruden's ratings fetcher on ESPN.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
KillerKat Grand Master

KillerKat

Posted
Posted

This should be easy to understand.

1. Fox wasn't critiquing Newton, just commenting that he didn't see him here

2. Fox sent 9 years here with Hurney, knows him as well as anyone in the league would, made decisions together, knows his philosophy, knows JR's philosophy and has no real incentive to hold back when talking about the Panthers now.

3. Gruden has never been associated with Hurney or the Panthers on top of never developing a good QB or drafting a good QB. Coincidence that TB lands a legit QB once Gruden is gone? I don't think so.

Yes, this is far more credible than Gruden's ratings fetcher on ESPN.

He doesn't know the direction we're going in now or about our new philosophy. If we were sticking with the same philosophy, we wouldn't have ignored Fox during last years draft and picked guys that Fox never would have and he would still be our head coach. So he's about as clueless as anyone else about who we are going to draft and how our team is going to be run. Fox also never developed or drafted a good QB either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
Posted

This should be easy to understand.

1. Fox wasn't critiquing Newton, just commenting that he didn't see him here

2. Fox sent 9 years here with Hurney, knows him as well as anyone in the league would, made decisions together, knows his philosophy, knows JR's philosophy and has no real incentive to hold back when talking about the Panthers now.

3. Gruden has never been associated with Hurney or the Panthers on top of never developing a good QB or drafting a good QB. Coincidence that TB lands a legit QB once Gruden is gone? I don't think so.

Yes, this is far more credible than Gruden's ratings fetcher on ESPN.

Valid points, but in fairness, Fox knew Hurney-Fox. He doesn't necessarily know Hurney-Rivera.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Jackofalltrades Proficient

Jackofalltrades

Posted
Posted

Fox's QB knowledge has squat to do with whether or not we pick Cam.

There's nothing to indicate we're changing philosophies. As a matter of fact, the retention of Hurney tells me that things aren't going to change all that much. As I said, Fox knows Hurney, Richardson and Gregory.

I would think Fox knows more than anyone not part of the Panther's organization.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
chef17 Apprentice

chef17

Posted
Posted

Yeah, but most coaches go out of the way not to go on the record about players on other teams. Two reasons: they don't want to give the other team ammunition or bulletin board material, and they never know if they might have to coach that player someday in the future.

Fox isn't close to most coaches

Link to comment
Share on other sites
AnalyzeThIs#28 Newbie

AnalyzeThIs#28

Posted
Posted

I agree with Fox, I think we will take Dareus 1st. You just don't never know with Cam, he has made some bad decisions in the past and has only 1 year of experience playing at Auburn. He does have a lot of upside, but he needs to be on the bench for a year to learn defenses better and for a smooth transition to NFL.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
Posted

Fox's QB knowledge has squat to do with whether or not we pick Cam.

There's nothing to indicate we're changing philosophies. As a matter of fact, the retention of Hurney tells me that things aren't going to change all that much. As I said, Fox knows Hurney, Richardson and Gregory.

I would think Fox knows more than anyone not part of the Panther's organization.

Hard to define.

We're actually going back to our old offensive attack, though run by different people.

And that's the big deal for me. Maybe we're not changing core philosophies, but we have changed the people who are applying those philosophies. So for me, it's inevitable that things change.

Now, with all that said, could Fox actually be right about this?

He most definitely could.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • LinvilleGorge
      College Basketball 2025

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      Yes, more recently. The way duke fans act you'd think they'd won five of the last ten or something crazy when they've actually won zero if the last ten. They haven't even even played in a championship ship game in the last decade. Carolina has played in three. For all the elite NBA talent that has come through Durham, duke is in a woeful championship drought. Duke fans used to talk all kinds of poo about how Carolina failed to win titles with Stackhouse/Wallace and Carter/Jamison and honestly they had a point. We should've gotten a title or two out of those teams. But man, duke's current run of elite talent with no titles puts that to shame.
    • LinvilleGorge
      College Basketball 2025

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      LOL, what? No one has said anything close to that.
    • raleigh-panther
      A Zietlow (observer) 3 centers to consider for draft

      By raleigh-panther · Posted

      In response to mailbag questions about drafting a center from Observer, Zietlow gives this infO  From Alex The Panthers, after all, aren’t going to be as stacked with interior offensive linemen who can be converted into centers as they were last year. Cade Mays is already gone to Detroit. Austin Corbett moved on to Buffalo. Brady Christensen might still come back, but his future is murky too … and he ruptured his Achilles five months ago.   Keylan Rutledge. The guard out of Georgia Tech has received high marks in the pre-draft process, and if he drops to the Panthers at No. 51 somehow, they should take him. He worked at guard and center during the 2026 Senior Bowl.   Jake Slaughter. The 6-foot-5, 303-pound center out of Florida really impressed at the NFL Scouting Combine in February, notably with a 5.1-second 40-yard dash time. He’s a center by trade, and coach Dave Canales likes athletic centers who can get to the second level of the defense. Slaughter is projected to be a third- or fourth-round pick.   Billy Schrauth. Another draft, another Notre Dame draft pick?At least, it’s possible with Schrauth, the 6-foot-5, 310-pound interior offensive lineman and team captain. He spent most of his college career at guard, but reports indicate a transition to center would be easy for him. He’s projected to be a Day 3 pick.    
×
×
  • Create New...