What about Cam will revolutionize the game?

[TheRealDeal]

Mark Sanchez put up great college number and flopped in the pros along with most of their highly touted WRs......I don't see how you can emphasis a players system and ignore that with your USC boy.

I can no longer argue with this level of stupidity.

You win, sir.

[panthers55]

You're comparing QBs to WRs.

Steve Smith says Hey!

Along with many others.

The USC offense was similar to an NFL offense that's why it doesn't get brought up as much.

Other than Carson Palmer who else has done anything of note in the past 10 years???

[panthers55]

Palmer (Good)

Leinart (Bust)

Booty (5th Rounder)

Sanchez (Early, but good signs)

Barkley (Promising)

They've had 1 guy bust out of the 3 that were high draft picks. That's better than the average rate for high QB picks but throw something else out there.

No.

You have one guy who was good, one guy who has a 74 rating and has thrown more Ints than TDs who plays on a great team and the rest have done nothing.

[mav1234]

Terry Bradshaw watched the same kid in college and pointed out the same flaws he showed at the next level. Clausen was almost a mirror image at ND as he was in Carolina.....his BS dump offs and slow scramble worked in college though.

did you watch Cam play? His offense relied heavily on what you would likely interpret as "BS dumpoffs." Plenty of college offenses do. Sure, Cam's included a heck of a lot more rushing than Notre Dame's ever did, especially from the QB position, and ultimately they weren't the same at all... but if you think all Jimmy did at Notre Dame was "BS dump offs", then you must think that of Cam Newton for the most part, too.

and it's funny you bring up terry bradshaw, since he was bashing Cam pre-draft and saying how he wouldn't take him in the top 10, citing his footwork as a major flaw...

this is the same terry bradshaw that likes mark sanchez more than josh freeman, btw. who knows, maybe once bradshaw gets a chance to see newton in the nfl, he'll put him ahead of freeman too. I hope so.

[panthers55]

But back to the original question. Will Newton revolutionize the game by himself. Of course not. But what he and Freeman can do is change the perception that athletic spread quarterbacks can't be effective in the NFL. That black athletic quarterbacks do have a place in the game and aren't risky propositions who have skill sets that don't transition to the NFL passing game. In that regard he can revolutionalize the thinking that traditionally has shunned guys like Newton or figured they should be transitioned into another position like tight end.

[SorthNarolina]

I think that could be a big thing, they could mark this era as when the Spread made it's way into the NFL again.

I mainly think he's just going to be Steve Young kind of guy. Like an extreme play extender.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Cornerback blitzes won't be as effective on him I think. He seems to shed tackles really well.

Or nickel blitzes either.

Beason and Cam going head to head in training camp should be interesting. CJ will definitely bring him down, if he gets his hands on him. (and if he's still here next season)

I just don't see Marshall or Gamble or any of our corners really having a hope of doing anything other than holding him until the rest of the defense swarms him.

[CAVSS]

As far as revolutionizing goes; I don't know about all that.

What I do know is that you can't double cover Smitty, stack the box with 9 defenders and play QB spy every down.

[rayzor]

Cornerback blitzes won't be as effective on him I think. He seems to shed tackles really well.

Or nickel blitzes either.

Beason and Cam going head to head in training camp should be interesting. CJ will definitely bring him down, if he gets his hands on him. (and if he's still here next season)

I just don't see Marshall or Gamble or any of our corners really having a hope of doing anything other than holding him until the rest of the defense swarms him.

i can guarantee you that CJ (providing he's still a panther) won't be bringing newton down. none of the panther defenders will be able to bring him down or even get their hands on him.

[MadHatter]

All I have to say is let the kid actually take snaps in the NFL before talking about being great, HOF, etc...

We sound like a bunch of pathetic homers in the worst way if we don't.

[CRA]

I can no longer argue with this level of stupidity.

You win, sir.

Mark Sanchez has been one of the worst starting QBs in the NFL over the course of the past 2 seasons. He just happens to play for a great team that makes up for his mistakes. You can't call Leinart, Sanchez, Jarrett, Colbert, Williams, LenDale, and Bush great NFL players....none panned out on the hype coming out of that program/offense. And your great example you gave as a success in Smith has 1 1000 yard season.

again, USC has produced a wide range of flops from the Pete Carroll era.....and none have remotely transitioned to be dominant like they were on the college level. USC produces great college players and disappointing pros for the most part. Pete's system and that conference is something you are choosing to selective ignore.

[CRA]

did you watch Cam play? His offense relied heavily on what you would likely interpret as "BS dumpoffs." Plenty of college offenses do. Sure, Cam's included a heck of a lot more rushing than Notre Dame's ever did, especially from the QB position, and ultimately they weren't the same at all... but if you think all Jimmy did at Notre Dame was "BS dump offs", then you must think that of Cam Newton for the most part, too.

and it's funny you bring up terry bradshaw, since he was bashing Cam pre-draft and saying how he wouldn't take him in the top 10, citing his footwork as a major flaw...

this is the same terry bradshaw that likes mark sanchez more than josh freeman, btw. who knows, maybe once bradshaw gets a chance to see newton in the nfl, he'll put him ahead of freeman too. I hope so.

Terry is right, Cam's footwork is a major flaw.....he will have to fix it. Terry was spot on with Clausen's flaws as well which everyone pretended didn't exist. That doesn't mean Terry is right all the time....but he proved spot on w/ Clausen.

Never said Cam didn't dump it off. He did....but unlike Clausen in college Cam showed tremendous pocket presense and has a throwing motion (along with size) and arm strength ready for the NFL and to make the throws required.

[tiger7_88]

And they were both better passers coming out of college than Newton, which is what the question was.

In Stafford's final season, he completed 61.5% of his passes for 3459 yards, 25 TDs, and 10 ints. Stafford averaged 9.0 yards per pass attempt and 266.1 yards per game.

In Newton's one season, he completed 66.1% of his passes for 2854 yards, 30 TDs, and 7 ints. Newton averaged 10.2 yards per pass attempt and 203.9 yards per game.

Newton was a much more efficient and valuable quarterback, performing in the same league, than Stafford ever was.

So was Bradford.

Granted.

And in my personal opinion that I don't think others will share is that Locker is as well.

You are delusional.

In Locker's best year (his junior year) he completed 58.4% of his passes for 2800 yards, 21 TDs, and 11 ints. Locker averaged 7.1 yards per pass attempt and 233.3 yards per game.

For people like you (haters, I think, is the correct term... and, yes, you are), though he was very accurate and efficient throwing the ball at the college level, there are always "questions" about Cam and his accuracy when he "faces NFL competition".

Yet, for some reason, you same fantasists seem to think that a guy like Locker, who was NOT very accurate and efficient against college defenses, will somehow be BETTER when he "faces NFL competition".

Your posts are a wonder to read. I enjoy them a heckuva lot. Its like watching the freak-show contortionist at the county fair. You try so hard to hate but at the same time to not ADMIT that you hate. You want to set the stage for later for your big "I told you so", but you do NOT want to be held responsible for any negative opinions (and, yes, hate) that you hold and continually spew. You find guys like you as fans of any team... guys who would much, much rather be "right" than for their team to be GOOD.

Now you will deny this, of course. But your every post puts the lie to your denials.

[tiger7_88]

@CRA

Cam was a Dink and Dunker with a big shot over the top to a wide open guy occasionally.

:rofl:

You are insane! You obviously don't have a clue about the Auburn offense (it ain't a dink-and-dunk offense bro-seph) and Cam's role in it last year.

Insane and ignorant are quite the deadly combination.