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What is really our problem?


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I agree 100% that it was their intention to start Newton from the beginning.

What I said is that by taking the path they have, they have left themselves with basically no other option should Cam continue to struggle.

I am concerned about a QB needing work on his mechanics being thrust into the starting position on a mediocre team. He will continue to be under tremendous pressure. I don't like his chances of improving his footwork, throwing mechanics, etc during the game. He will be running for his life too often.

I still would prefer DA to start for 6-7 games....let Cam continue to work on his mechanics with the coaches...then turn the team over to him about mid way through the season. This strategy is exactly what Tampa did with Freeman.

Yeah I think they didn't want a QB controversy and with Newton still learning they couldn't afford to bring in anybody that could unseat him which is why Moore is gone as well.

I was under the impression that Anderson was brought in to start for a while until Newton could take over but his lack of reps suggests he was never part of the plan.

As for the mechanics, the issue isn't a practice issue so much as falling back to old habits when the bullets start to fly. That is why I think they continue to put him in games and are going to start him for the season.

As for Freeman,I think he came in because Johnson was doing so poorly not because he wasn't ready. The thought was that Johnson wasn't an upgrade so you might as well put in Freeman.

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Why not give DA some more reps..?? I honestly think he looked the best out of any of our QBs in his 1 drive? I know DA has problems, but I think he gives us the best chance to win.

Jeez...Cant believe I said DA gives us the best chance to win..

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Why not give DA some more reps..?? I honestly think he looked the best out of any of our QBs in his 1 drive? I know DA has problems, but I think he gives us the best chance to win.

Jeez...Cant believe I said DA gives us the best chance to win..

b/c DA is wasted reps and experience.

Drafted Cam knowing he would have to go out there and take his lumps.....why give those reps/time to DA? Just delays Cam.

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b/c DA is wasted reps and experience.

Drafted Cam knowing he would have to go out there and take his lumps.....why give those reps/time to DA? Just delays Cam.

I agree with you, but also see a risk of injury to Cam right now. That could be mentally or a broken leg.

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I believe a lot of people are under estimating how complex the new offense is. Both Gross and Kalih have been on record saying it's very complex, and admitting that they are struggling picking it all up. These are two of our smartest players on the team. If they are struggling, imagine how much more difficult it is for the qbs, who must also help calling out protections. The starting oline hasn't even practiced together.

You guys are expecting miracles...without being the least bit realistic.

There is going to be growing pains. Both offensive, and defensive.

Stop blaming the players (saying they are no good, etc), and have a lil patience.

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I agree with you, but also see a risk of injury to Cam right now. That could be mentally or a broken leg.

You can't mentally break Cam....

Dude is also built like a DE which helps. Plus, Cam is a "gamer". Panther fans will find out soon of enough what that means. What Cam shows when the bright lights and pressure is on....will always be different than in practice and what not.

That doesn't mean he will be great.....but I don't expect Cam to be what hurts this team the most in 2011

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You can't mentally break Cam....

Dude is also built like a DE which helps. Plus, Cam is a "gamer". Panther fans will find out soon of enough what that means. What Cam shows when the bright lights and pressure is on....will always be different than in practice and what not.

That doesn't mean he will be great.....but I don't expect Cam to be what hurts this team the most in 2011

This. Once Chud says, just before the offense takes the field week 1, "go out and win. I don't care how you do it, just do it." then we will see what Cam really has. We won't see him standing in the pocket when he has nobody open and a running lane. We won't see him overthinking like we have seen so far in the preseason. We will see playmaking and moving the chains. At least, that is what I expect, just based on last year at Auburn and what we all know Cam is capable of as an athlete.

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First year head coach and assembled coaching staff who is much like an assembled expansion team. We are just a little bit better than an expansion team. New offense and defense, it's going to be a long year. The places that all these other guys walked into were more built out in the gameplan, system, coaching staff and personnel surrounding them.

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The lack of experience, Chemistry and Gnak.

Gnak (its in French the rage to win, avoir la gnak)

And last game i see no rage panthers side, i saw a team defeated before the begining of the game. You need to have the rage to win damnit! wihtout the gnak you can't win, with the gnak even average players can wipe elite players.

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