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Mr. Scot

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Considering he has had a couple picks that weren't entirely his fault, the reams we've played, the team around him, and the game he had to play in a monsoon, I'd say Cam is already better than around 13 of those ahead of him...

At this point in the season, I don't see how one can make a valid argument that the top 3 QBs in the league aren't Brady, Brees, and Newton...

Rodgers above them all

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Considering he has had a couple picks that weren't entirely his fault, the reams we've played, the team around him, and the game he had to play in a monsoon, I'd say Cam is already better than around 13 of those ahead of him...

At this point in the season, I don't see how one can make a valid argument that the top 3 QBs in the league aren't Brady, Brees, and Newton...

Aaron Rodgers? :confused:

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After yesterday, that kid is ready. He is keeping plays alive and making some insane plays throwing the ball. Get LaFell out there at number 2 full time and see if he and Cam can build on something they already got going! That was a sure TD for LaFell if he hadn't slipped in the end zone.

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Rodgers is a very good and efficient QB, but its true, people do underrate his supporting cast, specifically his receiving core. Even though he's one of the best, I dont look at Rodgers as CARRYING the Packers the way Brees does the Saints or Brady does the Pats. Pack can still win when he doesnt put up huge #'s.

and like 21 in completion percentage

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Meh... He has a great supporting cast and hasn't had that much opposition... Plus, they've played us...

Don't get me wrong, he's up there too, but Cam is playing better than almost anyone except maybe Brady...

LOL

and like 21 in completion percentage

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Rodgers is a very good and efficient QB, but its true, people do underrate his supporting cast, specifically his receiving core. Even though he's one of the best, I dont look at Rodgers as CARRYING the Packers the way Brees does the Saints or Brady does the Pats. Pack can still win when he doesnt put up huge #'s.

No doubt. Even their rookie WR, Randall Cobb, is already looking like a star. If we had a guy like that, it would help us out tremendously. Just imagine Cobb returning punts for the Panthers instead of Armanti Edwards, not to mention that he's already a good WR to boot.

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Meh... He has a great supporting cast and hasn't had that much opposition... Plus, they've played us...

Don't get me wrong, he's up there too, but Cam is playing better than almost anyone except maybe Brady...

No he isn't. Cam is playing great and showing he has the potential to become an elite NFL QB (and there are VERY VERY few).

But Cam isn't playing better overall football than everyone. He is a rookie....with a LOT on his plate. Redzone play......weighs in more heavily than inbetween the 20s.

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Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Schaub and a healthy Peyton Manning are all guys that I would take over Newton without question. To say otherwise pretty much requires a peek through the homer glasses.

On the flipside, I would take Newton easily over Vick, Roethlisberger, Hasselbeck, Stafford, Romo, Kolb, Campbell, McNabb, Orton, Sanchez, Grossman, Cutler, Alex Smith, any of the rookie or second year guys and any of the WCO products.

Guys like Josh Freeman, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and a few others, it'd be a coin flip.

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Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Schaub and a healthy Peyton Manning are all guys that I would take over Newton without question. To say otherwise pretty much requires a peek through the homer glasses.

On the flipside, I would take Newton easily over Vick, Roethlisberger, Hasselbeck, Stafford, Romo, Kolb, Campbell, McNabb, Orton, Sanchez, Grossman, Cutler, Alex Smith, any of the rookie or second year guys and any of the WCO products.

Guys like Josh Freeman, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and a few others, it'd be a coin flip.

But is the question who you would take Cam over for your franchise......or who has been playing better football for 4 weeks.

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But is the question who you would take Cam over for your franchise......or who has been playing better football for 4 weeks.

Well I framed it in my mind as "who is the better quarterback".

As far as who I'd take over Newton in reality right now, when you factor in age and years of play, probably about the only two guys I could see swapping for would be Josh Freeman or Aaron Rodgers, and with a gun to my head probably only Freeman (great as Rodgers is, he's in his seventh season).

Are guys like Brady and Brees better? In the short-term, sure, but Newton's got his whole career ahead of him.

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I admit I may not be the most objective because I am a homer and watch every snap from newton and not have the luxury of doing that with all the elite QB's.

That being said Cam is top 4 this season so far.

Here's my list for this season so far

1.Brady

2.Rodgers

3.Brees

4 Newton

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