Worrying about Cam leaving in 4 years

[The Saltman]

dont mind him he is an illiterate falcons fan.

[Happy Panther]

/Starts "Should we go after JP Losman thread"/

[The_Mango55]

What's interesting about this scenario, is that up until this year, Phillip Rivers has actually statistically matched Brees as a QB. But Rivers is having a bad year this year compared to his past years performance, so now, San Diego's Front office and coaching is looking dumber and dumber. (In fact, he has fewer TDs than Cam does, lol).

Here's the thing though, Brees was NEVER elite in SD, he only became elite with Payton's playcalling. Rivers has been better in SD than Brees ever was.

So yeah you can say the SD coaching and front office looks dumb, but it's not for going with Rivers over Brees.

[davos]

I don't think anyone has realized Happy was just addressing the people who have looked into this at the get go and showing why it shouldn't be a concern given the CBA rules.

Then from then on, no one really read it and began b*tching about the overall topic of the thread.

"Good for us"

Why do all of you b*tches get so worked up about subjects not even the reality of the original content? The posters constantly trying to show that they don't care about these subjects by being the one's posting in the threads are whine & cheesin' hard

*see what I did there?

aah this topic sucks!! Why talk about this stuff?? I'm so cool I'll show you by expressing my negative view of this topic!!!!

*Semi-witty comment

*Incoherent response

*tits

*Better attempt at a witty comment

...where were we?

[Happy Panther]

I don't think anyone has realized Happy was just addressing the people who have looked into this at the get go and showing why it shouldn't be a concern given the CBA rules.

Then from then on, no one really read it and began b*tching about the overall topic of the thread.

"Good for us"

Why do all of you b*tches get so worked up about subjects not even the reality of the original content? The posters constantly trying to show that they don't care about these subjects by being the one's posting in the threads are whine & cheesin' hard

*see what I did there?

aah this topic sucks!! Why talk about this stuff?? I'm so cool I'll show you by expressing my negative view of this topic!!!!

*Semi-witty comment

*Incoherent response

*tits

*Better attempt at a witty comment

...where were we?

Thanks Beach. Glad someone understands.

:sifone:

[blackcatgrowl]

Here's the thing though, Brees was NEVER elite in SD, he only became elite with Payton's playcalling. Rivers has been better in SD than Brees ever was.

So yeah you can say the SD coaching and front office looks dumb, but it's not for going with Rivers over Brees.

So wait a minute...

You have to be "elite" to keep your job in the NFL as a starting QB against an unproven backup? Really?

Well, good thing "elite" is a completely subjective fan/player/media description, or a ton of good QBs would be out of jobs tomorrow for their backups to try and rise to become "elite" in.

Now... lets look at the virtue of Brees' play from a statistical point of view.

http://www.nfl.com/player/drewbrees/2504775/profile

My. Look at that. One of his best years as a QB was in 2004, when he was a San Diego Charger. In fact, it was his second best year statistically, only eclipsed by his Super Bowl run.

Now... are you honestly going to sit here and say "Drew Brees wasn't good enough to be the starter in San Diego!"?

Sorry, but the way A.J. Smith has let prime, play maker talent fly out of San Diego (like Brees, Sproles, Turner) he is only eclipsed in dumbassery in that organization by Norv Turner.

[panthers55]

Also talking about Panther for life simply goes against the odds. How many good QBs played with one team their entire career?

1-10?

In their prime a lot, especially quarterbacks. The ration is more like 9.5 out of 10. If they leave they are like Carson Palmer or McNabb and are traded or released. I honestly can't think of any franchise quarterback who was good, leaving in free agency against team wishes. Most of them are traded. Can you??

[panthers55]

So wait a minute...

You have to be "elite" to keep your job in the NFL as a starting QB against an unproven backup? Really?

Well, good thing "elite" is a completely subjective fan/player/media description, or a ton of good QBs would be out of jobs tomorrow for their backups to try and rise to become "elite" in.

Now... lets look at the virtue of Brees' play from a statistical point of view.

http://www.nfl.com/player/drewbrees/2504775/profile

My. Look at that. One of his best years as a QB was in 2004, when he was a San Diego Charger. In fact, it was his second best year statistically, only eclipsed by his Super Bowl run.

Now... are you honestly going to sit here and say "Drew Brees wasn't good enough to be the starter in San Diego!"?

Sorry, but the way A.J. Smith has let prime, play maker talent fly out of San Diego (like Brees, Sproles, Turner) he is only eclipsed in dumbassery in that organization by Norv Turner.

Brees was coming off a serious shoulder injury and there was wide speculation that he was done. Only Miami and New Orleans were even interested in taking a chance on him. San Diego had their quarterback of the future who was healthy and had no issues. So rather than pay Brees a big contract with all that uncertainty they moved on. The incentive based contract was protection in the event he didn't come back from injury. because new Orleans really wanted him, they took a big risk and signed him to a big contract. Seems they were right to take the chance.

[CarolinaAllDay]

if jerry can drive that fuggin school bus on that play 60 commercial, he better be able to keep cam on our bus.

According to you guys, in 4 years cam will have 3 superbowl rings. What makes you think hes gonna leave us after hes got all dem rannnngs?

[The_Mango55]

So wait a minute...

You have to be "elite" to keep your job in the NFL as a starting QB against an unproven backup? Really?

Well, good thing "elite" is a completely subjective fan/player/media description, or a ton of good QBs would be out of jobs tomorrow for their backups to try and rise to become "elite" in.

Now... lets look at the virtue of Brees' play from a statistical point of view.

http://www.nfl.com/player/drewbrees/2504775/profile

My. Look at that. One of his best years as a QB was in 2004, when he was a San Diego Charger. In fact, it was his second best year statistically, only eclipsed by his Super Bowl run.

Now... are you honestly going to sit here and say "Drew Brees wasn't good enough to be the starter in San Diego!"?

Sorry, but the way A.J. Smith has let prime, play maker talent fly out of San Diego (like Brees, Sproles, Turner) he is only eclipsed in dumbassery in that organization by Norv Turner.

An unproven backup who was a top 5 pick and being paid a crapload of money.

2004 was his 2nd best year from an efficiency standpoint but he didn't pass all that much anyway and it was in LT's prime. He might have thrown more picks in most of his NO years but his importance to the offense now is vastly higher. He then followed that year up with an average season and a career threatening shoulder injury.

I won't say he's not good enough to be the starter in San Diego, but I will say that San Diego couldn't afford to keep 2 superstar quarterbacks.

[EMSMedic79]

I think it all depends on how the team does and if JR is still around.

[blackcatgrowl]

An unproven backup who was a top 5 pick and being paid a crapload of money.

Which was an unnecessary risk they took drafting a high pick QB. Rivers is not better than Brees as a QB. But there's no doubt that Sean Payton is a better coach than Norv Turner.

2004 was his 2nd best year from an efficiency standpoint but he didn't pass all that much anyway and it was in LT's prime. He might have thrown more picks in most of his NO years but his importance to the offense now is vastly higher. He then followed that year up with an average season and a career threatening shoulder injury.

Actually, LT's best year was 2006... but still... he was running hard, so you have a point.

This just ties back to my point about their front office and coaching being dumb. If they can't get their act together to at least MAKE it to the Super Bowl with Drew Brees and LT when he was a Touchdown machine, there is something horribly wrong with the management and coaching of the team.

I won't say he's not good enough to be the starter in San Diego, but I will say that San Diego couldn't afford to keep 2 superstar quarterbacks.

No argument from me there... but there was no way in hell that they knew 100% that Rivers would be the better QB in the same system. And as it's becoming evident they were wrong.

[djp14]

No argument from me there... but there was no way in hell that they knew 100% that Rivers would be the better QB in the same system.

They didn't know it, but the fact that they were so gung ho to draft a QB (either Eli or Rivers) suggests that they didn't think Brees was the long term answer.

[bigdog10]

Why would Cam leave the team that gave him a shot and went against nearly everybody's opinions of him.

At the end of the day, this franchise will owe a lot to Cam for the things he does for it in the future, however Cam also owes this team and Jerry a lot for taking a chance on him.