Mayock Torches Coples

[Dpantherman]

21. Cam Newton*, QB, Auburn

I know, Cam Newton at 21 -- why? I believe in this kid. I believe in him as an athlete, I believe in his arm strength, but I don't believe he's in the top 10. He's got top-10 ability, but he's a developmental prospect. As a general manager, I would be comfortable taking him somewhere in the 20s.

http://www.nfl.com/d...op-32-prospects

And right before the draft his 'gut' just said 'no'

[UNCrules2187]

Look, despite my username, I'm not a huge fan of Coples - he really should have dominated this past year with his skills and potential. But I guarantee there will NOT be 49 better players from this draft than Coples.

[Riverboat Ron]

Low ranking by Mayock? Coples is the next Reggie White.

Imagine if we'd taken Pickles 2.0... I just threw up.

[Dpantherman]

Low ranking by Mayock? Coples is the next Reggie White.

*sigh* ...that stuff doesn't work here.

[KDawg004]

Let's hope GMs listen to him so we can draft Cox and then move up and grab Coples. Pipe dream i know.

Johnson Cox Edwards Coples

[megadeth078]

I don't even have Mayock rated in top 50 of my draft analyst rankings.

[KDawg004]

Mayock does seem to go against the grain sometimes. But, he does know how to scout DBs.

[RockyTopVol]

Coples is the Cam Newton of this draft IMO.

I mean that solely on the polarization of the player not whether I think he will be a good pro.

I think Dontari Poe is the Newton of this draft. Will either be a bust or an every-year Pro Bowler. Glad we swung for the fences with Newton, not sure we should do it with Poe.

[megadeth078]

I think Dontari Poe is the Newton of this draft. Will either be a bust or an every-year Pro Bowler. Glad we swung for the fences with Newton, not sure we should do it with Poe.

Cam Newton won a Heisman and a BCS championship in only one year with his team.

Dontari Poe couldn't even formulate a 30 second highlight reel in the C-USA (yes, that's a conference).

How are they similar?

[carolina-chuck]

I can't even take Mayock serious anymore.

[Dpantherman]

I think Dontari Poe is the Newton of this draft. Will either be a bust or an every-year Pro Bowler. Glad we swung for the fences with Newton, not sure we should do it with Poe.

horrible comparison.

[teeray]

I like Coples, I am just not sure he can be an elite outside pass rusher. I personally would like to see him add 20 pounds and move inside where i think he can be elite.

At DE I still think he will be very good and be stout against the run and get about 6-7 sacks a year. Not great but really good

However, if he does drop to us and we draft him I think it is an immediate upgrade over Hardy and wouldn't be upset at all if we got him.

[Mr. Scot]

I take Mayock as seriously as I do anyone else, but they're all hit or miss. Some "hit" more than others (McShay stinks) but when you get right down to it, it's all just educated guessing.

For that matter, if you want an idea of just how inexact a science draft scouting truly is, check out this item from PFT:

Billick says Ravens had highest draft grade ever on Jamarcus Russell

The Ravens scouting department, led by former NFL great Ozzie newsome, is widely considered to be one of the absolute best in the league.

They're also the bunch who deemed Kyle Boller worthy of a first round pick in 2003. And who - we now know - thought a guy who's now considered by many to be the biggest bust of all time was the greatest QB prospect in their history.

Bottom Line: Someone will take Coples (maybe us) in the first round, and it'll be a great move or a mistake. If it's us we'll argue about it relentlessly (heck, we do that already). But in the end, regardless of who we take, we'll all hope the Panthers were wise.

[Dpantherman]

The trouble some of these guys get it though is going WAY against the grain and venturing off into declaring a 'bust'. He's been down on Coples (with good reason) forever, but to go as far as to say he wouldn't draft him? That's extreme to me.