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If Janoris Jenkins Didn't Have The Character Concerns

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It is a moot point, because his skill is not why he is ranked where he is, but I think the topic is interesting when comparing CB types. I still think he would be #2 and not #4. Mike Lombardi says Jax likes Gilmore more than Claiborne. Another NFL expert, last week on NFL Network, (can't recall who it was--Casserly or Billick, maybe?) explained that the scheme is very important in determining what kind of CB you want. I knew that, but never clearly understood why. He explained that some teams want CBs who are better in coverage early in routes while others want CBs who cover best later in routes. Never heard it explained like that, and I never considered it.

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Another NFL expert, last week on NFL Network, (can't recall who it was--Casserly or Billick, maybe?) explained that the scheme is very important in determining what kind of CB you want. I knew that, but never clearly understood why. He explained that some teams want CBs who are better in coverage early in routes while others want CBs who cover best later in routes. Never heard it explained like that, and I never considered it.

Yeah, they said Revis is an example of a guy that is both, Asomugha is an early route guy, and Gilmore is the coveted late route guy in this draft.

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No, absolutely not. When has a very talented player who had character concerns ever worked out for us?????? It would be awful to take him in the second. I mean he left Florida!!!!!!!! Florida!!!!!! Then went and played at a small school. Yeah right a guy like that will never amount to anything in the NFL!!!!!!!!!!!

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No, absolutely not. When has a very talented player who had character concerns ever worked out for us?????? It would be awful to take him in the second. I mean he left Florida!!!!!!!! Florida!!!!!! Then went and played at a small school. Yeah right a guy like that will never amount to anything in the NFL!!!!!!!!!!!

Some guy by the name of Cam Newton left Florida. "Florida!!!!!!!!" Then he proceeded to go to a small junior college, followed by a National Championship and a Heisman Trophy session at Auburn. Shame he never worked out in the NFL... oh, wait.

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