Attention Whiners ....

[Floppin]

I don't care about having all-pro LBs if my DL is right on par with the worst in the league.

How good do you expect our now three first round linebackers to be with a garbage DL.

We've never seen this DL play together. DT's usually have a big jump from rookie to second year also. With Edwards at the nose and Mcclain starting next to him, with all our other young players rotating in, I see our line being greatly improved. Plus we can still get a nice DT in this draft. DLine is incredibly deep this year.

[mav1234]

The team that did select Hightower and also needed major defensive help selected a pass rusher first.

The Pats, as usual, had their poo together.

We are not the Patriots, we did not have the same needs as the Patriots, and Patriot-envy is all fine and well but it has no bearing on the quality of the Kuechly pick.

[Floppin]

The team that did select Hightower and also needed major defensive help selected a pass rusher first.

The Pats, as usual, had their poo together.

The Pats are possibly the worst drafting team in the league, unless you consider stock piling picks a good draft. When they actually pick players they are absolutely awful.

[bleys]

<<--- big fan of those who see the positive to this... considering Rivera seems to have a clue about what he wants to build his team around, I fail to see why Cox, Poe, and Brockers are such a failure... McClain shown flashes, as well as Fua... I guess we'll get to see why they suck so bad for us to bash Chico...

[Peppers90 NC]

I dont know if there was a higher impact player remaining at that spot, but im sure ron knows.

[Sloth]

We are not the Patriots, we did not have the same needs as the Patriots, and Patriot-envy is all fine and well but it has no bearing on the quality of the Kuechly pick.

I (and the rest of the league) are well aware the Panthers are not the Patriots.

They needed help generating a rush and filling out their LB group. They also have up and down CB play. Sound familiar? I was just pointing out the way the well-run organizations tend to approach building on Defense.

[Growl]

We've never seen this DL play together. DT's usually have a big jump from rookie to second year also. With Edwards at the nose and Mcclain starting next to him, with all our other young players rotating in, I see our line being greatly improved. Plus we can still get a nice DT in this draft. DLine is incredibly deep this year.

How good do you realistically expect our DL to be? Surely you don't look at our two garbage young DT's and think "aw, gee, yeah, they're just young. They'll be elite. For sure."

If we're lucky, they will be serviceable. And that seems to be okay with Hurney as long as he has an elite LB corp.

This team hasn't had a strong DL since like 2006. It's absurd. It's the year 2012, rushing the passer is right behind your own offensive passing attack in terms of building a successful team.

Sure. We could go DL in round 2 tommorow. Or we could have taken a better prospect there today and gotten a nice late-first round Secondary talen there tommorow.

Hurney's priorities are screwed up.

[savage]

last year everyone was crying that we werent blitzing. we didnt have the right players at lb. now we will.

[bleys]

I'm a big fan the last 2 years, can't wait until tomorrow night to confirm what seems to be on the horizon.... Should that horizon be a falure, we see the end of the beginning and can move on... however, thus far, I see positives.. Especially after viewing Fox's tenure, however maybe that isn't such a great thing..

[Floppin]

How good do you realistically expect our DL to be? Surely you don't look at our two garbage young DT's and think "aw, gee, yeah, they're just young. They'll be elite. For sure."

If we're lucky, they will be serviceable. And that seems to be okay with Hurney as long as he has an elite LB corp.

This team hasn't had a strong DL since like 2006. It's absurd. It's the year 2012, rushing the passer is right behind your own offensive passing attack in terms of building a successful team.

Sure. We could go DL in round 2 tommorow. Or we could have taken a better prospect there today and gotten a nice late-first round Secondary talen there tommorow.

Hurney's priorities are screwed up.

Rivera's defense requires a strong LB corps and nothing more than an average and non-poo Dline. As long as they are better than last year our defense will be vastly improved. You're basing your knowledge of how defenses work on a very simplistic and biased view.

[FirstRoundPick]

We've never seen this DL play together. DT's usually have a big jump from rookie to second year also. With Edwards at the nose and Mcclain starting next to him, with all our other young players rotating in, I see our line being greatly improved. Plus we can still get a nice DT in this draft. DLine is incredibly deep this year.

What?

Fua, McClain,Shirley, Nebleet, and Krease are to DT what Clausen was to QB. Give him another year, everyone sucked around him and they won't actually suck this year.

[Floppin]

Fua, McClain,Shirley, Nebleet, and Krease are to DT what Clausen was to QB. Give him another year, everyone sucked around him and they won't actually suck this year.

Are you functionally retarded or what? You've repeated this three times now and it means the same amount of jackshit as it did the first two times.

[mav1234]

I (and the rest of the league) are well aware the Panthers are not the Patriots.

They needed help generating a rush and filling out their LB group. They also have up and down CB play. Sound familiar? I was just pointing out the way the well-run organizations tend to approach building on Defense.

If they were drafting top ten, they might take a different approach if they couldn't find a trade partner. They were in a vastly different situation. You are vastly oversimplying things. I do not think they went into the Jones pick and said, "Okay, well, Hightower may be better, but hell we need a good versatile end, so lets get Jones and pick up someone for the interior later."

[bleys]

How good do you realistically expect our DL to be? Surely you don't look at our two garbage young DT's and think "aw, gee, yeah, they're just young. They'll be elite. For sure."

If we're lucky, they will be serviceable. And that seems to be okay with Hurney as long as he has an elite LB corp.

This team hasn't had a strong DL since like 2006. It's absurd. It's the year 2012, rushing the passer is right behind your own offensive passing attack in terms of building a successful team.

Sure. We could go DL in round 2 tommorow. Or we could have taken a better prospect there today and gotten a nice late-first round Secondary talen there tommorow.

Hurney's priorities are screwed up.

I only quote this to prove that someone does in fact find our 3rd round DTs to be "garbage".... granted they were 1st year 3rd round picks... someone was asking how ludicrous that might be that they expect them to be impressive, so here it is..