Some Don't Want Cam Scoring On The Ground ?

[DawgzLife]

For Cam, his career is in a better situation since he started right away. His talent isn't being wasted on the bench and again most likely wont go to another team in the future who already has a starter therefore making him a backup.

What? Cunningham was 'Benched' after being a starter as well, on more than 1 team.

Decade of greatness for Cunningham were the years he was starting. You know exactly what the fug im talking about.

7 years is not a decade. :unsure:

Im not cherry picking Montanta. It just supports that supporting cast has nothing to do with it. Again why does Brady only have 3? If the QB is excellent, they'll get an all-pro selection. There are 5 panels from major companies that select these all-pros and Im guessing that each company put together knows more about these things than you do.

So by your reasoning, Steve McNair on a hopeless Bus team could have been selected as an all-pro? Not going to happen. I said it has 'something' to do with it, not everything to do with it. A great player on a horrible team often gets overlooked.

Missing 10 games in 10 years isn't durable? What the fug are you smoking?

Did you ever watch McNair play? If you watched him walk aorund during many games you would know he was beat up A LOT. He was tough as nails & toughed it out, but he was hurt a lot & not durable.

When Cam gets hurt b/c he gets hit in the open field when exposed, then let's hear your defense. It nearly happned last year after his helicoper on the sideline. Let's agree to disagree...b/c this is pointless.

[KillerKat]

Cunningham was benched because he wasn't the clear starter. I just said Cam is in a better situation because he isn't going to another team to be benched. You just reinstaed what I just said in another way.

You still didn't answer why Brady only has 3 selections.

lol if a player is on the field, he's durable for that game. Now you're just throwing relative perceptions into this arguement which makes it impossible to argue against. Good job.

[Catweisers]

I believe this is going to be an incredible season this year. Its Cam's choice to make so lets cross our fingers and hold on for the ride!!!

Goooo Panthers

[Zithers]

cam rarely takes hits. dude dropped to the ground 9 times out of 10 when he ran. not to mention, he is bigger than 3/4 of the defense. he isn't going to take any huge hits because of that. the ones who dish out big hits (LBs and DL) aren't fast enough to catch him, and if they did, it'd be from behind, not some guy just standing there and waiting or running from the side to knock him out. even when he did "dangerous" runs like at the end of the minnesota game, or when he helicoptered against london fletcher, he popped right back up and was smiling like any other play. even his dives vs tampa and arizona, it was like he wasn't touched. its not like the D can gain a lot of momentum on the goalline to hit him hard anyway.

so yeah, don't care about how much he runs. not worried about it.

[Mage]

From the time he was given the starting QB job in 1997 and until 2006, he played every full season except 3/4 of a season (8 in 2004 and 4 in 1999 missed). Only other time he didnt was his final year.

I understand that, but it is well documented that McNair played through a ton of injuries.

http://sportsillustr...4/injuries.html

Was he a tough player? Absolutely. But I wouldn't exactly classify him as durable. He played on twisted ankles. In December of 2002, he was playing through a turf toe, strained ribs, and a sore back, all of which prevented him from practicing. In December of 2003, he was playing on a cracked bone spur. Among a bunch of other injuries. He was almost always listed questionable for games. McNair was tough but for all intents and purposes, was very injury prone.

[PhillyB]

4k yards passing and 500 yards rushing is an acceptable ratio to me. lessens his carries from last year's stat line a little but but still keeps defenses on their toes.

i think we signed tolbert with this in mind. like somebody brought up, cam's runs in open space between the 20s are far less risky then trying to punch it in inside the red zone. this is where our shiny new fullback comes into play.

[Kuhndog86]

If you keep the designed runs down to 3 or 4 a game Im fine with it. It brings a whole new dynamic to the offense. It also keeps the Option alive. It discourages LB blitzes. It takes a man out of coverage if they have to keep a spy on him. To many advantages to take it completely out of the playbook. I do agree that it needs to be kept to a minimum thoough and the boy needs to learn to slide...Not that we dont appreciate the effort.

[chubs2496]

We drafted arguably one of the most dangerous and biggest matchup problems this league has ever seen....and people don't want Cam running?

Cam was one is the most efficient runners in the NFL last year.

Cam's running ability/threat was a HUGE part of the offense working.

Yes, we have talented RBs. However, it is easier to get Cam into the endzone than them. He is the best overall runner on this team....it is just a non-traditional method of doing it. He is the best runner bc people have to play so many other things prior to him taking off.

Cam Newton should score about 10 TDs on the ground with ease while young. Easy points. Much easier to stop a RB.

Doesn't mean our RBs shouldn't get there work (and that includes goal line)...but if we are going to be a high scoring team then Cam's arm legs are going to be the ticket.

Cam Newton is unstoppable to a large degree. To not play to that is silly.

I think the majority of his good runs for large gains was when it wasn't a designed running play for cam. When it was designed then the play usually got us about 4 yards or less.

I hated watching us use cam when it was 3rd and 2 and him getting stuffed and tripped up. Especially when u have faster Stronger running backs. Cam is a great runner from the backfield when the play gets set up and he takes off. But when the play is designed for him to run I don't feel so strongly about it.

Just my opinion tho

[lightsout]

When Cam is running it into the endzone in the Super Bowl for a game-winning TD, everybody will shut the fug up.

[YourManInAmsterdam]

Here's the thing- Newton has the ability to become the greatest rushing quarterback of all time. To diminish his role as a runner in this type of dynamic offense could very well be the difference between winning football games and not winning.

He's special. If the 2011 season is any indicator of his future play, you have to have those designed runs in the mix and used appropriately.

Does he need to continue to learn about risk vs. reward? Sure. We even saw growth on that front last year. We saw him get out of bounds more at times when he could have cut back in, gotten a few more yards, but also potentially take a big hit.

The point, though, is moving forward it would simply be foolish to actively try to reduce his rushes. You use them when you need them or you see an opening that should be exploited, period.

Otherwise, we should just go back to playing Fox-ball.

[MadHatter]

The biggest hits I saw Cam take all of last year were in the pocket. Everyone is so worried about his health on goal line runs I guess everyone was happy we solidified the offensive line in the 2nd round, right?

You seem to forget the massive hits where he got helicoptered on the goal line.

[MadHatter]

We drafted arguably one of the most dangerous and biggest matchup problems this league has ever seen....and people don't want Cam running?

Cam was one is the most efficient runners in the NFL last year.

Cam's running ability/threat was a HUGE part of the offense working.

Yes, we have talented RBs. However, it is easier to get Cam into the endzone than them. He is the best overall runner on this team....it is just a non-traditional method of doing it. He is the best runner bc people have to play so many other things prior to him taking off.

Cam Newton should score about 10 TDs on the ground with ease while young. Easy points. Much easier to stop a RB.

Doesn't mean our RBs shouldn't get there work (and that includes goal line)...but if we are going to be a high scoring team then Cam's arm legs are going to be the ticket.

Cam Newton is unstoppable to a large degree. To not play to that is silly.

I agree that he is a match-up nightmare and true dual threat weapon on offense. I love it when he takes off and makes the defense pay with his legs. I love it when we throw in desinged read option plays to force the defenses to overthink this offense.

His running ability absolutely make this offense much more potent and dangerous.

However, I still cringe every time he takes one step backwards and barrels head first into the goal line....or goes airborn at the goal line. Yes he is big...yes he is powerful....and yes he can score.

I would still rather limit these shots and let our three stud RB's take on the pounding and the load there.

However, this will be RR's call and we will see how he handles it this season. They could very well limit those plays (and it is fully understandable due to risk)....and they could continue to use him the same way (and that too is understandable becasue of his size and ability).

Either way, this team is dramatically different with Cam on the field......DAMN I am glad I was wrong about this kid.

[CatMan72]

I just find it funny. Newton has potential to literally take the league over....and people are worried about him getting hurt and therefore want to pull the reigns back after one season? Cam hasn't even gotten comfortable yet...he is going to be a video game in the air and ground.

Yup, his ability to run the ball keeps defenses guessing... taking that away is doing the opponent a favor.

[csx]

We drafted arguably one of the most dangerous and biggest matchup problems this league has ever seen....and people don't want Cam running?

Cam was one is the most efficient runners in the NFL last year.

Cam's running ability/threat was a HUGE part of the offense working.

Yes, we have talented RBs. However, it is easier to get Cam into the endzone than them. He is the best overall runner on this team....it is just a non-traditional method of doing it. He is the best runner bc people have to play so many other things prior to him taking off.

Cam Newton should score about 10 TDs on the ground with ease while young. Easy points. Much easier to stop a RB.

Doesn't mean our RBs shouldn't get there work (and that includes goal line)...but if we are going to be a high scoring team then Cam's arm legs are going to be the ticket.

Cam Newton is unstoppable to a large degree. To not play to that is silly.

I'd rather he pass it or let one of our 3 other guys do it, sure.