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THE Solution to our Offensive woes


TruCatzFan

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I've read thread after thread where people on this site seem to think that Cam is forcing the ball to Smitty. I do not think that this is true. It is true that he has forced a few balls to him that resulted in turnovers, but overall I don't think that Smitty is targeted enough or a big enough part of the game plan on Sundays.

He's our most explosive player outside of Cam, and even that is debatable. The dude gets Crunk every time he gets the ball. He does have another boneheaded fumble, but then again so do both of our RB's, and our QB (on a play which should have closed out ATL). So lets not be too hard on him for the fumble. He has also had some boneheaded penalty calls, but then again so do ALL of our linemen, and our DB's.

My point is that if you get him involved on those short routes, especially the quick screen (the one Pilares scored on) then you will get the crowd fired up early. NOBODY makes that stadium cheer louder than Smitty. By making the D focus on Smitty (see last year) it causes double teams, which then allow for LaFell, Olsen, (insert random name here) to get open. THIS is ONE MAJOR thing wrong with our offense.

Don't sit here and tell me that he's been getting double teamed all year either, because he has not been. Occasionally yes, but for the most part it's man with a safety over the top. The key to victory is getting him More involved... Make the Defense back the fug up, then run the ball, incorporate the read option... The problem with our offense is that opposing defenses are only game planning for Cam... They're not worried about out Smitty or anybody else for that matter. Honestly, why should they!? We don't fuggin use our personnel to our advantage!

I hope that the coaches have this poo figured out after two weeks to analyze why what they've been running hasn't been working. Get Smitty the ball.... Short routes, let him make a play in space... Every play doesn't have to be a seam route. Then set them up for a double move... Run him on those infamous End Arounds....Our star WR has not been getting the ball enough in my honest opinion... He has to to open the field up for Cam and Co.

TL;DR-------> Get Smitty the damn ball!!!

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agree. we saw this all season long last year... short slants to smitty got opened up the deep ball and got the offense in a rhythm. this was invaluable for cam, who seems to snowball on his game performances. momentum is key for him.

i hope the coaching staff has reevaluated over the bye and made some changes.

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They were forcing him the ball last game man. It's really not that difficult to get this offense going. Minimize the read option and go back to basics. Run the damn ball with your multi million dollar backfield and let Cam do his thing when it's needed.

DEF agree that we need to run the ball... But let me ask you this... If Cam was accurate with his passes last week, would it have seemed that he was forcing the ball? It's not like Cam was throwing into triple coverage last week bro. It just appeared worse due to Cam being way off the mark. If Cam wasn't imagining Smitty as Andre the fuggin Giant they would have been completions...

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still think the best thing is spreading the ball around to the OPEN guy and just moving down the field..running the ball a lot and using lots of screen passes. this opens things up for smitty and even tho would result in him getting targeted less, would result in a better completion percentage and make smitty more effective.

trying to make one or two players carry the team on their back, esp. when there are other good options to go to, is a recipe for mediocrity or failure.

i agree that you have to get the ball to smitty. you can't win without him, but you have to make it not quite so difficult for him. you target him all the time and you end up with triple coverage.

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trying to make one or two players carry the team on their back, esp. when there are other good options to go to, is a recipe for mediocrity or failure.

i agree that you have to get the ball to smitty. you can't win without him, but you have to make it not quite so difficult for him. you target him all the time and you end up with triple coverage.

Response to first blurb: name one Weapon that we've utilized all season outside of Cam ( hints: there aren't any) and this is exactly my point. MAKE opposing defenses concentrate on someone other than Cam... Watch and see how much that field opens up!

Response to 2nd blurb: I agree with you, however when Smitty is triple covered, that means that at least TWO receivers are open, not counting a back out of the backfield. Once we exploit them for triple covering Smitty, there will be forced to go back to single coverage, which gives us "the shot" downfield.

What part of this doesn't make sense?

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When Chud was brought in it was talked nonstop about how he focused on the TE. That's all we heard about. Olsen re-signed and said a huge reason was how TE-centric our offense was. So why do I have more yards receiving than Greg Olsen this year? And if the offense called for two baller TE's, then why was Shockey not re-signed when he probably would've signed for peanuts? Why did we not go get another TE, or draft one? Why is it so painfully obvious that we are not getting the tight ends the ball that even the clueless announcers on TV spent the entire game against Seattle repeating over and over again that Olsen is open and Cam isn't getting him the ball?

Is this an OC issue? Cam? Rivera? Olsen? WTF happened from the hiring of Chud til now? And if its him getting cute with the quadruple option shotgun double reverse read sneak, then it's on Rivera to get on his fuging headset and say Chud WTF are you doing. When they were installing this offseason why was nothing mentioned? If Rivera thought it would work then, why wasn't it altered after the Giants game? Why do the wheels need to completely fall off the car if this team before they realize we should probably get an oil change?

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not trying to get into a pissing match. that's just the way i think it should run. do i HAVE to agree with you?

No you don't have to agree with me... I think we're both saying the same thing pretty much tbh... You're just saying throw it to the open guy, and I'm explaining how to get the open guy... But there's more than one way to skin a Cowboy

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When things are going bad - the LAST thing you want to do is make it harder on the players.

Chud, cut the cute sh1t out and just get back to basic football. Run the ball, pass the ball, and catch the ball. We're not going to the playoffs this season so let Cam take his sophomore slump lumps and learn the position this year.

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