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8-8 record and keep Rivera. Or 3-13 and get good draft position?

PantherTrain84

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fug draft position. The players are gonna play to win (as well they should).

this times a million.

i want this team winning.

i don't want a team that is satisfied with losing.

i hope that this team can turn it around. i hope that they don't have to go through another major overhaul.

if this team loses out then you can count on this place being an even more miserable place for players to come and you can count on cam and others not wanting to stick around.

players don't want to play for a losing team unless they are desperate and they are usually desperate for a reason.

sure....i know you get all these shiny toys in the draft but what guarantee is there that they will pan out and do you seriously want this team to have 4 or whatever rookie starters again?

meh...i've had enough losing.

let this team win. i don't care what it does to the draft. let these guys develop some pride.

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this times a million.

i want this team winning.

i don't want a team that is satisfied with losing.

i hope that this team can turn it around. i hope that they don't have to go through another major overhaul.

if this team loses out then you can count on this place being an even more miserable place for players to come and you can count on cam and others not wanting to stick around.

players don't want to play for a losing team unless they are desperate and they are usually desperate for a reason.

sure....i know you get all these shiny toys in the draft but what guarantee is there that they will pan out and do you seriously want this team to have 4 or whatever rookie starters again?

meh...i've had enough losing.

let this team win. i don't care what it does to the draft. let these guys develop some pride.

Pretty much this.

I want to see wins. Drafting high does not guarantee success. And teams that are perennial winners rarely draft high and still win.

Get wins - get wins - get wins.

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The one scenario I really want to avoid is continuing to look terrible (maybe even getting worse) but finishing with 3-4 wins and missing out on a top 2 pick that could net a huge amount in a trade because of a tie breaker or something. If we do continue to suck, let's suck JUST enough to get a top pick.

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Pretty much this.

I want to see wins. Drafting high does not guarantee success. And teams that are perennial winners rarely draft high and still win.

Get wins - get wins - get wins.

Ok but it also depends how we win and who we beat. If we play a Falcons team this year that are playing half ass after clinching the division a week prior like the Texans last year, thats not a true win. No beating the Chiefs and Raiders dont count. Those kind of wins are head fakes. Im talking REAL wins.. A win against the Bears at soilder field, THATS a win. A win against a Eagles team still fighting for a playoff spot and in contention? Thats a win. A win against a Manning led Broncos, thats a win.

I mean we beat last hear the Bucs, a Texans team half assing with TJ Yates, the Colts, the Jags and the Redskins with Beck at QB. Screw those paper thin wins. Im sorry, but if it comes down to either beating the crappy Chiefs or Raiders or landing a top 3 pick, im taking a top 3 pick all day long

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