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Wasnt Garry Williams absolutely abysmal or am I imagining things?

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So Rivera has said Garry Williams is now promoted to starter over Hangartner.. I notice a lot of fans seem indifferent on this but am i crazy or dont I remember that Garry was just downright AWFUL last season?  Like Fua and Haruki awful, meaning it was a inside joke on how bad he was.  And this is the guy Rivera promoted to RG?!

 

Just thinking about his abysmal showing in the Giants game is going to give me nightmares.  So yea, am i just crazy or dont I recall Garry being downright terrible?

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He was the offensive version of Fua. I think a lot of fans have forgotten that.

 

Good, atleast its just not me. I was quite suprised to not see more Panther fans up in arms about this and forgot just how horrible he was. The guy was just abysmal. Like the Haruki of the o line terrible but yet Ron has promoted him to starter?! Just when i was starting to come back around to Ron, he does this shiz.

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Ultimately I feel like Hangman's release is a Gettlemania move for next season. That is extra money in his pocket for the future he envisions. Hangman had no value but his release was worth 1.5m bucks.

 

I also get the feeling a man that pinches pennies this well won't be giving Greg Hardy a new deal until he has to. The same for Cam, I don't expect Cam to get a new deal next year unless the price is right.

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Good, atleast its just not me. I was quite suprised to not see more Panther fans up in arms about this and forgot just how horrible he was. The guy was just abysmal. Like the Haruki of the o line terrible but yet Ron has promoted him to starter?! Just when i was starting to come back around to Ron, he does this shiz.

But it does appear that Williams has improved. I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

I suspect we sign at least another OLmen

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This is an excerpt from an article from a website not allowed on the huddle that points out that the O line was not as bad  as people think and Williams did decently.

The Numbers

Now we look at the personal responsibility of each sack, sans those in which a rusher was unblocked. I've accounted for each sack surrendered. For a more accurate interpretation of the data, I've divided the number of sacks each player surrendered by their total amount of offensive snaps played.

Byron Bell: 9 sacks (.95 sacks per hundred plays)

Garry Williams: 2 sacks (.33 sacks per hundred plays)

Jonathan Stewart: 1.5 sacks (.48 sacks per hundred plays)

Geoff Hangartner: 3 sacks (.40 sacks per hundred plays)

DeAngelo Williams= 0.5 sacks (.12 sacks per hundred plays)

Greg Olsen: 0.5 sacks (.05 sacks per hundred plays)

Amini Silatolu: 4.5 sacks (.51 sacks per hundred plays)

Mike Tolbert: sacks (.23 sacks per hundred plays)

Jordan Gross: 7 sacks (.68 sacks per hundred plays)

Jeff Byers: 2.5 sacks (.54 sacks per hundred plays)

Expectedly the two tackles, Bell and Gross, have higher rates, as they typically face the opposition's best pass rushers. The second year pro out of New Mexico, Bell surrendered the most sacks of all pass blockers, ceding nearly one sack for every 100 plays. Meanwhile, of the interior linemen, Jeff Byers gave up the highest rate of sacks, with Amini Silatolu just a heartbeat behind him.

Greg Olsen, one of the Panthers top receiving targets, rarely stays in to pass block, which accounts for his paltry sum. And going off of memory, Jonathan Stewart was called upon to pass block more often than his counterparts, Williams and Tolbert. One thing I would like to see more of next year: the running backs receiving more free-releases out of the backfield, serving as a receiver, or hot route, than being assigned to stay in and block. But, if the tackles need help with pass rushers, that isn't much of an option.

The next few categories proved too ambivalent to analyze independently, so for the sake of comparison, I also gathered the data on Peyton Manning's 21 sacks (the archetype) and Tony Romo's 36 sacks (the control) from the 2012 season. Also of note, I've removed two sacks from the sum, both of which were attempted, last play of the game, desperation, hail-maries.

Sacks by number of rushers:

  3-4 5+ Cam Newton 21 13 Tony Romo 23 13 Peyton Manning 11 10

When first presented with Newton's final numbers, I wasn't exactly sure how to interpret them. Naturally, teams face exponentially more standard rushes of three or four defenders, than they do blitzes. But on the other hand, if a quarterback is being sacked in greater quantity via the blitz, does that intimate that he is poor at handling blitzes?

Apparently not.

Nearly 50% of Peyton Manning's sacks from 2012 came from the blitz. Comparatively, Newton and Romo are at 38% and 36% respectively. However, when breaking Cam's season into halves, it is visible that the Panthers quarterback is trending upwards. Of the 19 second half sacks (Games 10-17), 10 came on rushes with 3-4 rushers, 9 on blitzes (47%).

The distribution of sacks by quarter is fairly ambiguous.

  1st quarter 2nd quarter 3rd quarter 4th quarter/OT Cam Newton 10 8 7 9 Tony Romo 5 9 11 11 Peyton Manning 7 6 3 5

Newton's sacks were allotted fairly normally over the course of the game, while Romo was sacked much more often in the second half versus the first, and Manning his antipode, being sacked more regularly in the first half.

Departing from the analogs of Manning and Romo, the next category is the breakdown of sacks by down.

First down Second down Third down 10 9 15

Unsurprisingly, Newton was sacked more often on third down, which, more often than not, was a passing down for Carolina.

Sacks by field position:

Inside the 20 Own 20-40 40-40 Opp.'s 20-40 Red Zone 4 14 10 6 0

For one, the Panthers did a fantastic job of avoiding sacks inside the red zone, although, we would like to decrease the number of sacks surrendered in field goal range (inside the opponent's 20-40 yard lines), which oftentimes resulted in leaving three points on the field. Similarly, the majority of Carolina's surrendered sacks occurred inside their own 20-40 yard lines, as well as between the forty-yard lines, most of which represent stunted drives and three-and-outs.

Despite the fact that there has been no (so far, at least) addition of starting caliber talent on the offensive line, the acquisition of hog-mollies that we've seen on the defensive line this offseason, I remain cautiously optimistic that the Panthers will at least be able to improve on their marks from 2012, in terms of sacks/hits surrendered. With the growth of Cam Newton as a quarterback, and the return of Ryan Kalil (who did not surrender a sack in the 400-odd snaps he played in 2012), not to mention the maturation of Amini Silatolu, Carolina should rebound nicely next year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ey... im on vacatioN and im drunk as FUUUGG AT THE BEACH, ////////////...................PUBLIC SERVICE ANOUNCEMENT....you know where im at, the

"we are the poo" state.

You fellas are my bud. dont know anything about you, exept the love for the Carolina Panthers. together, we are stronger than steel. we are the fans, we have a voice. we are thye poo. we ***accomplish things**** FUUUCKCKCKCKKKK YEahhh WE CRAZY WE LOVE THE PANTHERS WE LOVE OUT TEAM WE SUPPORT THEM AND OUR FELLOW FANS////

real talk, i dont know you, you dont know me, but i l,ove you because we love the PANTHERS and we will RISE UPPPPP

THIS IS OUR YEAr. rise up. make the declarATION. HAVE PRIDE!!!! HAVE A BEER!!! (OR A BOTTLE OF BOURNON OR TWO) N AHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA LETS GET ITTT IM DRUNK and as proud as ever TO BE A PANTHERS FAN RISE UPPPP GETTT UPPPPPPPPP[PPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET BEHIND THE MOVEMENTTTT AGGGHHHHHHGFHGHHGHJGHGHHGH THIS...IS.....OUR.........YEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Who the fug over the age of 15 does this?
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