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Stopping our front four


DaveThePanther2008

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What an amazing thing to watch.  Four monsters crushing the pocket consistently.

 

How do you scout them?  How do you plan for them?

 

You can't really double more than one unless you keep a tight end in and maybe a RB.  That still leaves someone one on one.  And even doubling them isn't going to stop them all the time.  

 

Keep the pressure and that defensive backfield is going to look All-Pro no matter who is back there.

 

If you were a Offensive coordinator how would you handle this group?

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW what a fun thing to discuss since our D-Line has been so abysmal over the last couple of years.

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What an amazing thing to watch.  Four monsters crushing the pocket consistently.

 

How do you scout them?  How do you plan for them?

 

You can't really double more than one unless you keep a tight end in and maybe a RB.  That still leaves someone one on one.  And even doubling them isn't going to stop them all the time.  

 

Keep the pressure and that defensive backfield is going to look All-Pro no matter who is back there.

 

If you were a Offensive coordinator how would you handle this group?

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW what a fun thing to discuss since our D-Line has been so abysmal over the last couple of years.

 

I would say, "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate".

 

 

Google it you MF'ers.

 

 

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Settle down now guys. 6 of those 7 sacks were in the first half. Just like Atlanta last year. Sure they kept an extra TE in to block, along with the RB. But we have to maintain that pressure all game.

That said. Eli didn't try to force the ball down field much in the second half either. Quicker throws are going to be the norm. But if we can continue to slow down the running game, and force teams to max protect. We will be in a good position to dictate terms. And that is all you can ask for.

Yup, teams are going to be worried about pressure. And I can live with that.

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Standard response to a high pressure DL is quick throws off of short drops (3 steps, generally), essentially the WCO approach.

 

You have to have a QB that can execute it, of course (receivers too).

Yes, WCO offense will negate some pressure.  The inside pressure should also help those inaccurate throws too which should lead to more "tips drill" interceptions.

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Yes, WCO offense will negate some pressure.  The inside pressure should also help those inaccurate throws too which should lead to more "tips drill" interceptions.

 

One of Bill Walsh's original uses for the WCO was as a counter to Buddy Ryan's 46 defense.  Done well with the right players, it can be an effective attack.

 

Wrong players and/or poor execution, it becomes what Phil Simms once described as a a "horizontal offense".

 

 

 

I'm just happy we're finally able to drop 7.

 

That's a pretty big deal.

 

 

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