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Greg Hardy extension?

nctarheel0619

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CPF4LIFE Grand Master

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we can't overpay.  the dude is good but we already have the personnel it would take to replicate his production rather easily.  i want him back but we have to know cam and luke are gonna want huge deals soon too and they matter way more.

 

We do???

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We do???

yup.  hardy is gonna have about 12 sacks per year.  frank alexander would would have 7-8 per year as a starter imo.  then we'd just need to find a pretty good backup behind alexander that could be a decent rotation guy and just churn out 3-4 sacks per year.  kinda like how antwan applewhite was.  i want hardy back because i love his attitude and swagger, we need guys like that but if he's asking for too much don't overpay.  he's not THAT great, he's not even the best DE on our team

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yup. hardy is gonna have about 12 sacks per year. frank alexander would would have 7-8 per year as a starter imo. then we'd just need to find a pretty good backup behind alexander that could be a decent rotation guy and just churn out 3-4 sacks per year. kinda like how antwan applewhite was. i want hardy back because i love his attitude and swagger, we need guys like that but if he's asking for too much don't overpay. he's not THAT great, he's not even the best DE on our team

You realize it's not just sack production, right? There's also the constant double teams, sealing the edge against the run, tackles, tackles for loss, QB hits, pressures, batted balls, intimidation factor, future potential, etc.

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we can't overpay.  the dude is good but we already have the personnel it would take to replicate his production rather easily.  i want him back but we have to know cam and luke are gonna want huge deals soon too and they matter way more.

And that sir is the issue in a nutshell. Regardless of what we or DG thinks he's worth fiscally, his real worth will have to be factored as an opportunity cost.

 

Will DG risk losing Cam or Luke by signing Hardy to a huge contract? I don't think so. Cam and his development is the key to this team's future as an elite franchise.

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yup.  hardy is gonna have about 12 sacks per year.  frank alexander would would have 7-8 per year as a starter imo.  then we'd just need to find a pretty good backup behind alexander that could be a decent rotation guy and just churn out 3-4 sacks per year.  kinda like how antwan applewhite was.  i want hardy back because i love his attitude and swagger, we need guys like that but if he's asking for too much don't overpay.  he's not THAT great, he's not even the best DE on our team

 

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I'm sure Gettleman has a max figure he's willing to pay Hardy, and unlike Hurney, I don't think he will go above that figure.  So I would guess that right now Hardy's people are still above that figure, so Gettleman's still working on bringing it down.  I'm sure Hardy will get some considerations for lowering his asking price, though.

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Maybe I'm crazy, but I bet DG finds a way to pull it off. I see us keeping Hardy, Cam, AND Keek. Gettlemagic, boys, Gettlemagic!

 

it's not magic to max out your cap space on 3 guys, any idiot can do that. 3 guys that we have a losing record under mind you. if he can keep all 3 at reasonable contracts and leave enough cap space to build a quality roster and winning team around them then I'll say that's magic

 

gettleman doesn't strike me as the type to throw a record breaking contract just to keep one guy. quite the opposite actually. we'll see what happens with hardy, sounds like he'll be looking to get every penny possible (i'm guessing franchise tag this offseason and him walking after that)

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Seems to me Alexander has motivation issues...there was a reason why he was a healthy scratch two weeks ago(think it is more then the punches thrown fiasco).He had the stigma of having an on / off motor coming out of college. Unless he starts to show that he wants to play every down,then I would not feel comfortable with him as a starting DE.

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yup.  hardy is gonna have about 12 sacks per year.  frank alexander would would have 7-8 per year as a starter imo.  then we'd just need to find a pretty good backup behind alexander that could be a decent rotation guy and just churn out 3-4 sacks per year.  kinda like how antwan applewhite was.  i want hardy back because i love his attitude and swagger, we need guys like that but if he's asking for too much don't overpay.  he's not THAT great, he's not even the best DE on our team

 

You got to remember that Hardy might not be as good as big money, he's more valuable due to his versatility.  He's big and strong enough to play inside allowing us to put him, CJ and alexander in on passing downs.  He's also a great special teams gunner.  I think hardy is worth 10ish mil a year assuming he keeps his production around where it should be.

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yup. hardy is gonna have about 12 sacks per year. frank alexander would would have 7-8 per year as a starter imo. then we'd just need to find a pretty good backup behind alexander that could be a decent rotation guy and just churn out 3-4 sacks per year. kinda like how antwan applewhite was. i want hardy back because i love his attitude and swagger, we need guys like that but if he's asking for too much don't overpay. he's not THAT great, he's not even the best DE on our team

Looks like you're right. Alexander is good, except the coaching staff makes him inactive.....

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