Ranking the Panthers Most Effective Runners

[ed bell]

Stewart hasn't shown any flashes in his touches this year outside of a couple carries. For now DeAngelo has shown more. Overall, no continuity on our OL seems to be the real culprit in our average RB run game. Tolbert certainly seems to be least affected, but his down and distance opportunities might be a factor there.

[Panthro]

:sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:

 

Deangelo

232 Targets

1404 Yards

107 Games Played

2.2 Targets per game

13.1 Yards per game

 

Stewart

145 Targets

884 Yards

75 Games Played

1.9 Targets per game

11.8 yards per game

 

Done with this guy lol.

 

id be more interested in seeing snaps vs games played

[CRA]

They are not used as down field passers. They both catch screens/dump offs and checkdowns and turn them into long gains. Deangelo was not noted for his hands coming out. That has nothing to do with current Deangelo. Watch games "recently" Deangelo has caught pretty much every catchable ball that has been thrown his way. I remember maybe 1 wheel route Stewart ran 3 years ago. That's it. It's short dump offs which I don't see Stewart being so dramatically better than Dwill.

Using recent history especially at the end of last year, Dwill took 2 short passes/screens to the house from 50+ yards out. I haven't seen him drop a catchable ball from Cam on the screens and some of those passes are "shaky" at best. If there was a passing drill Stewart could possibly be a better receiver than Dwill, however in games I haven't seen any indication one way or the other. Your post make it seem like it's blatantly obvious which I don't see how you can come up with that.

Stewart does a better job catching the bad throws......both can catch the good ones

All comes down to being consistent.....behind a bad OL Stewart just seems more consistent. Lots of not bad running. Williams has bad runs. Several. Then it comes down to will he make a really nice one to counter. When he doesn't, the impact is brutal IMO

[Udogg]

Stewart does a better job catching the bad throws......both can catch the good ones

 

Ok I guess,  I don't know how you quantify this statement.  I supposed it's going to be the old "watch the game" response.   I am honestly looking I just don't see how you say Stewart has obviously better hands.  It's not that much of a big deal to me however so .......

[Happy Panther]

They are not used as down field passers.  They both catch screens/dump offs and checkdowns and turn them into long gains.  Deangelo was not noted for his hands coming out.  That has nothing to do with current Deangelo.  Watch games "recently" Deangelo has caught pretty much every catchable ball that has been thrown his way.   I remember maybe 1 wheel route Stewart ran 3 years ago.  That's it.  It's short dump offs which I don't see Stewart being so dramatically better than Dwill. 

 

Using recent history especially at the end of last year, Dwill took 2 short passes/screens to the house from 50+ yards out.  I haven't seen him drop a catchable ball from Cam on the screens and some of those passes are "shaky" at best.   If there was a passing drill Stewart could possibly be a better receiver than Dwill, however in games I haven't seen any indication one way or the other.  Your post make it seem like it's blatantly obvious which I don't see how you can come up with that. 

 

This matches my recollection and I obviously watch every game.

 

Stewart also has 4 targets from any distance this year with a longest of 10. If he is that good of a downfield guy let's use him that way.

[CRA]

Ok I guess, I don't know how you quantify this statement. I supposed it's going to be the old "watch the game" response. I am honestly looking I just don't see how you say Stewart has obviously better hands. It's not that much of a big deal to me however so .......

Well if you watch the games....Stewart does a noticeably better job on poor throws. Now, a poor throw often means he does a mini circus act to get it, losses his momentuem, and the play isn't really good. But Stewart is better at it.

The real difference is runs for no gain....Stewart is better about making something out of nothing. Even if it is unimpressive. He is more powerful and better running into trash piles.....that alone means he should see the field more than Williams based on our OL

[Cpt slay a ho]

Deangelo and Sewart have both been anemic. Stewart gets stuffed as much as Deangelo does.

 

Stewart can get the extra yard up the middle but Williams gets the longer runs when he can find space and has better hands. This has been true for as long as they have played together and isn't that different now.

 

Tolbert is a great situational back. 

 

this i don't know why there some bias for towards williams but they both have perform identical

[General_Purr]

Cam

Dwill

Tolbert

Stew

 

D will is dangerous in open space.. but sadly he gets hit early becuase of the line.. but he is very quick and elusive in when he hits his top speed.

 

[Chimera]

As a runner, Stewart hasn't shown much since 2009. He had a chance to carry the team with a rookie QB and run happy coach in 2010 and couldn't get it done.

He did excel in our pass happy 2011 offense, which is probably where those "better receiver" arguments are coming from.

Historically, from a W-L perspective, this team fares pretty well when DWill is the feature back.

[Davidson Deac II]

In yesterdays game, Stewart appeared to be running stronger as the game went on, albeit in limited opportunities.  I thought that Tolbert's big runs near the end were successful in large part because Miami was expecting pass