GREAT article on Cam: "Don't Call It Redemption"

[SZ James (banned)]

Haven't seen him mentioned in here before that, unless I missed it.

 

Also, footballisasport isn't exactly someone I would really listen to on this.

 

Mentioned once by Pantherbrew, who stated he doesn't believe the hype because of the similarities to Cam's treatment

 

Once by footballisasport, whose response was predictable and retarded like I was describing in that other post. And it's not just him who is guilty of it.

[TheRed]

Mentioned once by Pantherbrew, who stated he doesn't believe the hype because of the similarities to Cam's treatment

 

Once by footballisasport, whose response was predictable and retarded like I was describing in that other post. And it's not just him who is guilty of it.

 

I've seen numerous people pile on Griffin here, I don't agree with it, but it's really no different than the other teams fans who pile on Cam at every opportunity. It's going to happen no matter what anyone else says. I get that you obviously have an ax to grind here. Meh.

[SZ James (banned)]

I don't know what axe that is, I just reply when I'm quoted in a post most of the time. Obviously that's gonna happen a lot when I say something that isn't homer fuging simpson.

 

 

[raleigh-panther]

Seems to me the media could give two shakes of a rat's ass about Carolina.

 

Carolina obliged by not giving them a reason too, or famously collapsing on the big stage.

 

The media regurgitates the same old stories over and over and over again because that's what they have.

 

No one wants to hear that Cam does charitable things, after all, nothing he could possibly do could outdo what The Golden Calf of Bristol or Wilson does because you know, Cam isn't sincere like the others.

 

Then there are the fans and media who refuse to embrace him and love him because they feel he loves himself enough.  He helped that along with the celebrations of Superman during not so Super moments.  That's past history of course, but the clips remain in the media and online forever.

[teeray]

Everyone is just jelly

[TheRed]

I don't know what axe that is, I just reply when I'm quoted in a post most of the time. Obviously that's gonna happen a lot when I say something that isn't homer fuging simpson.

 

Oh, so we're all just blind homers then huh?

 

Well fuging excuse me for not using a picture of Russel Wilson, or Mike Glennon as my avatar the week we played their team.

[KillerKat]

I agree, he's the same player and person as he first got here. He's made improvements, but it's not like he was a pile of crap that had to be turned into a polished diamond like the media portrayed. I believe a lot of Cam's criticisms are racially charged. When Cam gets criticized for something that I see other QBs do, who by the way are all white, it's not that hard to see.

 

Cam's rookie year was a shocker to the media. It was a "oh poo, maybe my stereotypes are actually wrong!" moment. Hence why they built up RG3 so big. Which is another reason why I'm glad that whole situation is blowing up in all of their faces.

 

But it didn't stop them from trying to cover Cam's good play his 2nd year up by spewing the "sophomore slump" bullshit. They tried hard as hell to push that in order to cover their asses.

 

Even now you have some in the media trying to cover their ass about when they were wrong about all the criticism they gave Cam. They have to throw out the maturity card so that they can pretend Cam had to mature in order for them to praise him now.

[SZ James (banned)]

^^Well, the level of denial here is pretty ridiculous, call it whatever you want. Not all of it's you but we're denying the authenticity behind the words of SS, Rivera, Gross, Kalil, and even Cam the man himself because we really don't want to admit that it was true. It's venom-sad.

[Oudaman90]

Cam has matured. Even he has admitted that. But let's not sit here and act like he was Ryan Leaf or even Jay Cutler now...If Cam had gone 10-6 last year this becomes just a minor nitpick like it is now...

[PhillyB]

maturity is a slider on a scale, not an on/off switch

 

treat it as the former and you will be illuminated. treat it as the latter and you will remain conflicted in the dark

[tiger7_88]

Do you remember when Smitty called out Cam for sulking on the bench during a blowout? He said something like "Jimmy stands up and watches you play every single game, the least you could do is stop sulking and watch him finish the game out."

Is smitty also part of the big bad media in this situation?

 

 

Yeah, I remember that.

 

Ironic and funny considering that there are times where Smitty goes into sulking mode with the quickness.

 

Is Smitty considered "immature" now?  

[Oudaman90]

Yeah, I remember that.

 

Ironic and funny considering that there are times where Smitty goes into sulking mode with the quickness.

 

Is Smitty considered "immature" now?  

 

Heck no, but fans won't sweat him about it...

[Evengelion]

from the above article:

would you consider tom brady immature?

 

the link in that above quote leads to an article about old man brady from this season. here's the kicker on it....

when newton basically says he needed to improve in that department, according to many, that was an admission that he was immature. when brady says it, tho, what is it? brady admitting that he was immature? or was it just him acknowledging an area that he needed to improve on? and if it was that, how is it different than newton's confession?

People are such hypocrites. They do and say anything to "take care of my guy".

[frash.exe]

maturity is a slider on a scale, not an on/off switch

treat it as the former and you will be illuminated. treat it as the latter and you will remain conflicted in the dark

It's also something that is subject to individual metrics! And given the amount of individual opinions on this if cam spent all his time preoccupied with how his maturity was being perceived, it would be more counterproductive than talking about madden on the sideline for twenty seconds!