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While Newton struggles against top passing defenses, Kaepernick is worse


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http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/82232/challenges-await-kaepernick-newton

 

 

Kaepernick was tops in the league against NFL defenses in the bottom half of the league (ranked 17-32 in defensive QBR)

 He was 9-0 with 9.1 yards per attempt, 18 TDs versus 0 Ints and a total QBR of 91.  Against top 16 defenses he was 3-4 with 6.2 yards a play, 7 TDs versus 8 Ints and a QBR of 31.

 

Newton was 5th against bottom 16 defenses with a 7-0 record, 8.3 yards per attempt, 16 TDs and 5 Ints with a total QBR of 78.  Against top 16 defenses he had a 5-4 record, 6.3 yards per attempt, 14 TDs versus 8 Ints and a QBR of 39. The biggest difference was Newton's 74 QBR against Seattle versus Kaepernick's 14 and 41 QBR in their 2 games.

 

While it favors Cam the difference isn't that big.  

 

But:

 

More telling is Cam's QBR against teams in the top 16 at home which is 74 versus Kaepernick's QBR against teams in the top 16 on the road which is 33.

 

Cam's record at home against top defenses: 3-1

 

Kaepernick's record on the road against top defenses:  1-2 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You can tell just by looking at our offense that Cam is the better QB. Cam makes reads and holds out as long as he can to complete a pass. CK either rolls out or waits until protection breaks down to make plays. Lots of motions and pistol stuff. The whole offense runs on bullsht.

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You can tell just by looking at our offense that Cam is the better QB. Cam makes reads and holds out as long as he can to complete a pass. CK either rolls out or waits until protection breaks down to make plays. Lots of motions and pistol stuff. The whole offense runs on bullsht.

Oh? The whole offense runs on bullshit? Lol. Still have some Read Options Designs From Last Year.

But I lol, at that, If you think that's just our Offense. WCO and different variations. Even though, Shula shouldve gave Cam some more Runs. Cause it works out.

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you know 48ochoshogun just because you're registered on this forum doesn't mean you have to post the same opinion in every single thread

 

  With what i state, is on par of the OP Post, Can't help the threads have been similar to others threads.

did you just entirely miss the point of this thread?

 

 

yes, yes you did.

 

 

No, Kaep was garbage the first half of the season, everyone knows that. Receivers were just that bad.  He was another man Once Crabs came back, The Offense has been clicking at the right possible time.  I'd say, it's better to have judge him more on a complete basis when Crabs came back and we had let pretty much half or more or less the WR's we had before Crabs came back go.

cam hasn't lost since steve smith came back

 

EAT OUR SHORTS BITCH

DANG, How can i beat that argument, but, Cam isn't on a 7 Game Win Streak eh?

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  With what i state, is on par of the OP Post, Can't help the threads have been similar to others threads.

 

No, Kaep was garbage the first half of the season, everyone knows that. Receivers were just that bad.  He was another man Once Crabs came back, The Offense has been clicking at the right possible time.  I'd say, it's better to have judge him more on a complete basis when Crabs came back and we had let pretty much half or more or less the WR's we had before Crabs came back go.

DANG, How can i beat that argument, but, Cam isn't on a 7 Game Win Streak eh?

 

shut your shit douchebag

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