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WR at 28 Question


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Robinson and it was a easy choice for me between the 3.

People need to stop comparing all small WR to Smitty.

Unless they have that vertical Steve had Or the mean streak that he carries into every game. They won't be another Steve Smith.

I would rather have Matthews but your assessment of Cooks is spot on.

 

There won't be another Smitty

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Beckham did produce vs the SEC schools as well and maybe not in the TD department but in the catches and yards he did. The guy is an explosive athlete and I think he is going to kill the combine. That in top of have huge, strong hands and long arms he is growing on me. Just seen he was good basketball, baseball, and soccer player so that speaks about his athleticism. And a LSU coach said he could start at any position in their secondary

Very consistent route runner and beats press coverage with strength and speed he could become something special. Not really a red zone threat but does everything well. Over 2000 all purpose yards.

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I rather go TE if those guys are gone. Pretty sure one of Amaro, Ebron or ASJ would be available if 5 WRs and the Top tackles are taken.

 

Said it before as well as others, I LOVED our 2 TE set offense. Olsen + Ebron/Amaro/ASJ is a nightmare matchup all by themselves. If we land Nicks in the offseason, this would be fantastic for Cam and this offense.

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Good question.  Remember, Gettlemen will take BPA, and I do not think any of these fit.  HOWEVER, I can see Robinson, maybe Beckham at 28. 

 

The following will most likely be taken ahead of us:

 

QBs: (4)  Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, Carr (Garropolo (sp) possible)

OTs (5) Matthews, Robinson, Martin, Lewan, Kouingido (sp)

DL: (4) Clowney, Ealy, Nix, Donald (Hageman, Jerinigan possible)

LB: (4) Mack, Barr, Ford, Mosley (Shazier possible)

DB: (2) Dennard, Clinton-Dix  (Gilbert, Pryor possible)

WR/TE: (4) Watkins, Ebron, Evans, Lee (Benjamin, Matthews possible)

 

So if you believe Gettlemen 100% about BPA, it should be a player above in parentheses who drops to us.  However, if they all go, we are looking at-  Of those players, I would be interested in:  Benjamin, Matthews, Gilbert, Pryor. 

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If no WR is available, we could to with:

OT Moses (watch him rise between now and May--he will be a low first rounder by then)

OG/OT Yankey (Some like him as a T)

Good breakdown.  And I agree that Moses will be a late 1st by the time the draft rolls around.  And to be honest, I am beginning to think he may be the pick regardless.  While we desperately need a WR, we can probably still get a good one in the 2nd; however, solid LT's are much harder to come by.  And from what I have seen and read, Moses is far more comfortable on the left side, and has the potential to be a franchise LT.  With Gross closing in on retirement, I don't think Gettleman passes on someone of Moses potential to be his replacement. 

 

Also, if we do take Moses, and Gross signs on for another year or two, we could put Moses on the left and move Gross over to the right side, pushing Bell to where he belongs...depth.

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How important is the elite tackle, really? The very best in the game, Ryan Clady, has been out all year and so what? I think the Broncos win regardless. How many tackles can anyone name in Super Bowl history? How many were first round picks? Obviously we need to get at least one this offseason, just food for thought.

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I rather go TE if those guys are gone. Pretty sure one of Amaro, Ebron or ASJ would be available if 5 WRs and the Top tackles are taken.

 

Said it before as well as others, I LOVED our 2 TE set offense. Olsen + Ebron/Amaro/ASJ is a nightmare matchup all by themselves. If we land Nicks in the offseason, this would be fantastic for Cam and this offense.

 

Yep, I can agree with this.  

 

I know things can change but last year post draft, it sounded like Eifert was our choice outside of Star.  Not to mention our heavy interest in Keenan Allen but apparently KK was higher on that list in the 2nd.  

 

That's why I can see our short list at WR/TE being the likes of Lee, Ebron, Matthews, Amaro, and ASJ.  At least one of those guys should be available.  Outside of that, I was trying to gauge if people think Beckham, Robinson, or Cooks are worth #28 straight up, not considering who else is available.        

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Good breakdown.  And I agree that Moses will be a late 1st by the time the draft rolls around.  And to be honest, I am beginning to think he may be the pick regardless.  While we desperately need a WR, we can probably still get a good one in the 2nd; however, solid LT's are much harder to come by.  And from what I have seen and read, Moses is far more comfortable on the left side, and has the potential to be a franchise LT.  With Gross closing in on retirement, I don't think Gettleman passes on someone of Moses potential to be his replacement. 

 

Also, if we do take Moses, and Gross signs on for another year or two, we could put Moses on the left and move Gross over to the right side, pushing Bell to where he belongs...depth.

 

Thanks Woodie.  T makes more long-term sense to me. Addressing T is a 2-player, 2-year process Good points. 

People here are screaming for a WR in the first and I understand that, but the depth of the draft should leave us with a good player at the position.  I think we might bring in a veteran and a second or third rounder to compliment Smitty, Ginn (maybe) McNutt, and/or King.

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I've seen a lot of mocks projecting Allan Robinson out of Penn State to us, thoughts on that draft gurus?

 

Also would anyone be upset if we double dipped on receiver in either the first and third or second and third? and used the other pick on OT? I sure as hell wouldn't 

 

We've thrown so much poo at the wall with receiver trying to find Smitty a number two, and god forbid a replacement eventually something has to stick

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good read, supports what i was saying about Odell.

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46136/349/peshek-wr-metrics-20

 

I've started enjoying Peshek's work, and 2 other stats he mentioned that didn't make it into that piece.  83% of OBJ's receptions went for a first down and Cooks caught 25% of his total receptions in the redzone.

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I've seen a lot of mocks projecting Allan Robinson out of Penn State to us, thoughts on that draft gurus?

Also would anyone be upset if we double dipped on receiver in either the first and third or second and third? and used the other pick on OT? I sure as hell wouldn't

We've thrown so much poo at the wall with receiver trying to find Smitty a number two, and god forbid a replacement eventually something has to stick

Robinson is a good prospect.has good body control and good size at 6'3 205 pounds guessing. Decent speed, and good Yac ability. Scheme didn't really ask him to get vertical all that much tho

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I've seen a lot of mocks projecting Allan Robinson out of Penn State to us, thoughts on that draft gurus?

Also would anyone be upset if we double dipped on receiver in either the first and third or second and third? and used the other pick on OT? I sure as hell wouldn't

We've thrown so much poo at the wall with receiver trying to find Smitty a number two, and god forbid a replacement eventually something has to stick

Great news. Great news because I don't want Robinson at #28, and if there's one thing that's for sure, it's than no mock in January will have it right.

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