For people who are angry with Dave Gettleman..

[EightyNine]

I'm just asking if anyone can explain the possible merits of cutting Smith and paying a couple million dollars as opposed to keeping him on the team another year.

The merit comes from doing what is best for the team.  That is what I expect them to do, and I can't prove that this will be the case until we see what the final product is.

[heel31ok]

I'm not mad at G-man, I am mad at the legend and myth of G-man.

[intangiblejohnny]

I'm not mad at G-man, I am mad at the legend and myth of G-man.

Great point. Mirrors how I feel exactly.

[Jangler]

It's not a good idea.  Too many on here think the sun rises and sets in the crack of Richardson's ass, and whatever comes out of 800 South Mint Street is the gospel truth and beyond reproach.  They can't see what a greedy bitter old man Richardson is and how the emphasis isn't on winning at all and never has been....it is all about the $$$.

 

Anyone remember Hugh Culverhouse and the Bucs?  Well-respected by his fellow owners and made a boatload of money, and didn't give a tinkers damn about winning.  That's Jerry Richardson in a nutshell, but he has his lame-assed stories about starting Hardees and playing with Johnny U's jockstrap to distract the masses.

 

Two posts on this page and it sounds like you don't care for the Panthers too much. I was a 49ers fan until the Panthers...you don't have to root for a team because of location.

[jptaylor84]

Not sure why there's so many gettleman ass kissers, I don't dislike the guy at this point but nor do I love him, sustained success should be seen as a job well done for him so the jury is out in my eyes.

He had a pretty good roster added a few good players in free agency, some turned out due to coaching and the system in my opinion not because he's a miracle talent spotter, as for his first draft star and kk were pretty much base solid picks hardly genius moves, we also had a lot of luck last year in games that could of gone the other way, but then the margin between sucres and failure sometimes is always not very far.

For me this is his first real off season, how we line up in September and how the season turns out will answer my questions, at the moment it doesn't look good talent wise on the roster and with little cap space it will be interesting to see what he does. But at the same time he isn't to blame for years of bad contracts and bad money management that has pretty much hamstrung this team from being what it wants to be sooner.

[iamhubby1]

It's not a good idea.  Too many on here think the sun rises and sets in the crack of Richardson's ass, and whatever comes out of 800 South Mint Street is the gospel truth and beyond reproach.  They can't see what a greedy bitter old man Richardson is and how the emphasis isn't on winning at all and never has been....it is all about the $$$.

 

Anyone remember Hugh Culverhouse and the Bucs?  Well-respected by his fellow owners and made a boatload of money, and didn't give a tinkers damn about winning.  That's Jerry Richardson in a nutshell, but he has his lame-assed stories about starting Hardees and playing with Johnny U's jockstrap to distract the masses.

Thanks for the laugh. I know this is probably not politically correct, but, I find your discomfort hilarious. I bet you are a hoot at parties.

This is a perfect example of a little knowledge is dangerous. Damm, I love the interwebz.

[The_Mango55]

In football, success = winning. Some players want to win. I know that is a foreign concept here in NC, but not for long. We have a GM and QB that are willing to do what it takes to achieve success on the field. It might take another season or two, but it's happening.

 

 

To be fair he was treated more like family for the past 10 years. Only in the past year has this organization shifted to a more business mindset which is what I perfer. We all know what happens when you treat your business like family, you get 6-10 and 8-8. If you want to win you gotta be more business if you want 12-4. 

 

 

Yes you have both addressed why Gettleman would want to make this move. However that's not what I was asking. Why should SMITH want to take a pay cut?

 

If it's all about business and business = money, he would want to be cut to get his bonus and sign with the team willing to pay the most

 

If it's all about success and success = winning, he would want to be cut to get his bonus then sign for cheap with the team most ready to win now

 

The only reason he would want to take a pay cut and stay is loyalty, and as Gettleman and his most die hard supporters* like to argue, loyalty is worthless.

 

*I like Gettleman and so far think he's been a good GM for the team, but I don't think he's infallible like some here do.

[AceBoogie]

He is going about it like a businessman warm feelings and cuddly thoughts about times gone by have no effect on what's best for the TEAM NOW.

Good businessmen don't make it personal. And Steve Smith is what's best for the "TEAM NOW" because right "NOW" he's the only wr on the roster that caught a pass last year if you want to get technical

[MadHatter]

Good businessmen don't make it personal. And Steve Smith is what's best for the "TEAM NOW" because right "NOW" he's the only wr on the roster that caught a pass last year if you want to get technical

 

Paying $7M for a 35 yo WR is NOT what is best for this team....not to mention that keeping him this year will increase the hit for future years.

[tiger7_88]

Have you taken the time to think that Dave Gettleman may not have been been the only one who thought it was time to let Smitty go? Don't you wonder what kind of input he got from Ron, Shula, etc.? I wonder what they were saying during all of the discussions.

 

 

 

I'm betting if Rivera and Proehl made it clear that they couldn't do without him, Smitty would have been back.

 

And for those of you that wear your heart on your sleeve, prepare yourself... because next offseason it will almost assuredly be both Deangelo and TD's turn.

[tiger7_88]

Somebody post Smitty's numbers for the next few years. I could be wrong but I thought I saw these numbers on here somewhere. Pie

 

http://www.overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Steve%20Smith&Position=WR&Team=Panthers

[weyco2000]

If he's that great, then why doesn't he have trade value?

[intangiblejohnny]

If he's that great, then why doesn't he have trade value?

He's great because he has tremendous value at the WR spot on our team as opposed to any other we have on our roster.

He's great because we probably wouldn't have won 12 games and the South without him.

I see a pattern of people thinking that when players perform well it's because Gettleman has a great eye for talent but when they perform poorly it becomes the players fault.

[heel31ok]

Paying $7M for a 35 yo WR is NOT what is best for this team....not to mention that keeping him this year will increase the hit for future years.

35 is not a reason in itself.