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D. Newton: Rivera is right. We don't need a number 1 WR. / OK, OK...

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Gettleman's first focus this season is to fix the cap situation.....why is it so damn hard for you idiots to understand this.

 

He is NOT going to restructurie contracts and push more cap hell into the next two years....when next year's position may actually be worse than this season.

 

He is going to ensure we lock up our young talent....supplement that short term with bargain players with something to prove....work to rid the team of bad contracts over the next two seasons...and set up the Panthers for long-term success.

 

Problem is that the avg huddle on here is a 15yo kid with zero understand of finances or budget constraints.

 

Not to nitpick, but Gettleman did decide to franchise Greg Hardy and restructure contracts last year.

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Not to nitpick, but Gettleman did decide to franchise Greg Hardy and restructure contracts last year.

 

He did the bare minimum that he had to to get by.  Gross was talking about retiring for the past two seasons.  They redid the contract to give us last year and let him walk this year.

 

Yes, he did and does have to make some contract moves.  But, he is not going to push the hell into next year to sign mid tier guys like Nicks and Decker.  They are just not worth it.

 

And don't throw out DJax.  It would be monumentally stupid to pay $10M a season for a headcase like him when the WR class is incredibly deep in this draft.

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He did the bare minimum that he had to to get by.  Gross was talking about retiring for the past two seasons.  They redid the contract to give us last year and let him walk this year.

 

Yes, he did and does have to make some contract moves.  But, he is not going to push the hell into next year to sign mid tier guys like Nicks and Decker.  They are just not worth it.

 

And don't throw out DJax.  It would be monumentally stupid to pay $10M a season for a headcase like him when the WR class is incredibly deep in this draft.

 

I think I have to disagree and say Nicks was probably worth it, and Britt as well. Gettleman has made signings this offseason. They're just not players that many would want, such as Harper, Bryon Bell, or that cornerback that was cut from the Chargers.

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I want the kid from Indiana in the second or third round (Cody Latimer)

What was the topic?

I think Smitty was being paid as a #1 but there were signs that he could no longer fill that void.

A true #1 is a player who produces even when the defense is constantly cheating to his side. He opens things up for everyone else. However, the fact that SF, Seattle, Carolina--the elite teams of the NFC--did not have one is interesting. What they all had was a run-first offense and a good QB.

If you cannot run the ball, the absence of a top WR is more obvious. For us, the fact that Cam is one of our leading rushers is perhaps not a healthy way to gauge our running attack. We need to upgrade the OL considerably if we are going with WR by committee.

you don't think SF had a #1? Crabtree and Davis would both qualify imo.

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Gettleman's first focus this season is to fix the cap situation.....why is it so damn hard for you idiots to understand this.

 

He is NOT going to restructurie contracts and push more cap hell into the next two years....when next year's position may actually be worse than this season.

 

He is going to ensure we lock up our young talent....supplement that short term with bargain players with something to prove....work to rid the team of bad contracts over the next two seasons...and set up the Panthers for long-term success.

 

Problem is that the avg huddle on here is a 15yo kid with zero understand of finances or budget constraints.

 

^^^ Exhibit "A" of the morons who in September will be screaming about our offense not scoring 30 points, or Newton failing to throw for at least 300 yards.

 

Hatter is the President of the "Oh, we really don't need anymore talent on offense we should strengthen our defense" in the off season, and then come September, "I hold Newton responsible for this loss because he did not score 30 points on the Seattle Defense."

 

And if you had a working brain or reading comprehension skills you would have noticed I stated: "This nonsense that it is okay to have a glaring, gigantic hole at WR position and its okay to not TRY to fix it as best as possible within the cap and draft restraints we have-- is all kinds of stupid."

 

Please go play in traffic.

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^^^ Exhibit "A" of the morons who in September will be screaming about our offense not scoring 30 points, or Newton failing to throw for at least 300 yards.

 

Hatter is the President of the "Oh, we really don't need anymore talent on offense we should strengthen our defense" in the off season, and then come September, "I hold Newton responsible for this loss because he did not score 30 points on the Seattle Defense."

 

And if you had a working brain or reading comprehension skills you would have noticed I stated: "This nonsense that it is okay to have a glaring, gigantic hole at WR position and its okay to not TRY to fix it as best as possible within the cap and draft restraints we have-- is all kinds of stupid."

 

Please go play in traffic.

 

This is moronic in every way. Anyone who would say such things about or offense while having knowledge of our current situation is just ignorant. You contradict pretty much everything with your "Within the cap a drafty restraints" line. THIS IS FIXING the offense with the restraints we currently have...wow...

 

We obviously need talent on offense, but all we can do is pick from the extreme bargain bin at the moment

 

And anyone saying Nicks/Britt would be gamechangers/ worth it....good lord, just stop.

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you don't think SF had a #1? Crabtree and Davis would both qualify imo.

 

Crabtree is not a #1 by any means...

 

ANd it's ok for Davis to be considered their #1 but when our TE is our #1 option it's the end of the world. We will add more weapons, just very cheap ones...deal with it, it's all we can afford.

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Crabtree is not a #1 by any means...

 

ANd it's ok for Davis to be considered their #1 but when our TE is our #1 option it's the end of the world. We will add more weapons, just very cheap ones...deal with it, it's all we can afford.

 

he's a 1000+ yard receiver on a heavily run focused team. he is by all means a #1 receiver.

 

and davis >>>>>>>>>> olsen

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you don't think SF had a #1? Crabtree and Davis would both qualify imo.

 

Just quoting Newton, but I agree.  he is one of those fringe #1 WRs,  Not a Green or Cal Johnson, but a rising talent who could easily be considered a #1 but not elite yet.

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Just quoting Newton, but I agree.  he is one of those fringe #1 WRs,  Not a Green or Cal Johnson, but a rising talent who could easily be considered a #1 but not elite yet.

 

well yeah, those two are literally the top two receivers in the game right now.

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This is a stupid question. 

 

A better one would be would you rather have AJ Green or Cam Newton. 

 

This.

 

The bottom line is, can you move the ball with what you've got?  I think we can, even if we don't get a true #1 WR.

 

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