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Landry runs 4.58 at pro day

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OBJ would be this year's Star dropping to 28. I think Beckham Jr has solidified himself as the #3 WR in this draft moving slightly in front of Lee and Cooks. If Baltimore, NYJ or Philly goes WR, he makes too much sense. For us, I think Lee is an outside chance, but Benjamin, Cooks, Matthews, Robinson or Latimer will be our WR options at 28. I like Latimer in the 2nd, but not in the first, though our scouts seem very high on him.

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It'd be interesting to see where Landry falls in the draft. Remember that a lot of personnel people want to give prospects good grades, and these workouts are only a cross-check for what they see on tape. Now, let's assume that a certain team liked what they saw on tape. OK, his 40 time was bad at the combine, but it improved on his pro day. Yes, he had some drops, but he caught everything on tape. Certain teams are going to look at his pro day as a success and bump him up the board.

 

Now, just how high is he going to go? Who knows. I still wonder what this guy's model of success will be. But you never know, a team like Seattle may take a chance on him.

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They use electronic timing at the combine they are hand timed in pro days ...

He is a 4.7 guy .

 

I think the start is by hand, but the finish is electronic, but I wouldn't swear to it.

 

Nevertheless, I think the combine 40 is, while not totally worthless, pretty close.  At most, it gives an indication of speed and is meant to level the playing field, but it's far from definitive, and can actually be quite misleading.  After all, running in aerodynamic shorts, shirts, and specially designed shoes is a far cry from carrying 25 lbs. of pads and running in cleats. 

 

I think putting everyone in pads to run the 40 would be far more telling about functional speed, which is what separates the studs from the duds, IMO.  A lot of guys have good speed in shorts, but lose it when the pads go on.  I want the guy that maintains his speed.   

 

Also, a runner can significantly improve their 40 time simply by working on their technique.  And have you ever seen a receiver line up in a 3 point stance with his off hand in the air?  Nope, but the player that comes out of that stance smoothly can run a much faster time than a guy that hasn't mastered the technique.  So a receiver can be judged and dinged for a move that he will never make on the football field and doesn't have any applicable value toward their position (well, unless we're talking OT's).

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Very true and thats why you have to look at all of landry's #'s to confirm that he runs at turtle speed..

 

his vert shows a lack of explosiveness and his 3 cone was horrendous. if you watch his film you will see that he is consistently covered by college db's and he wins with his ball skills. In the NFL you will not be able to win consistently if you have no separation speed or quickness.

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