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The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
PNW_PantherMan replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah like he said. N/A. -
The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
MHS831 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I am confident, barring injuries. We get injured during pre-game introductions. -
Theilen is clearly the better all around receiver than Ginn but they are different olayers and comparing them is useless. Theilen is more like a Cotchery than a Ginn.
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DJ Chark has a 1,000 yard season under his belt and made numerous insane catches to bail Bryce out. Theilen is obviously Theilen. Mingo and TMJ aren’t great. In my mind, Chark is better than McMillan, XL, and Coker at this point and you typically only run with three receivers max. Now had we drafted Tyler Warren, I’d agree with you.
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Carolina Going to the Super Bowl This Season
coffee replied to chknwing's topic in Carolina Panthers
No, Aaron Rogers going to the Steelers instead of the Vikings assures that we win this time. -
The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
mrcompletely11 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
The nfl gave us a nice schedule for the first 4 games. So hopefully we take advantage of it. -
The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
Pejorative Miscreant replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Good post. Definitely appeared to me as it was based on past performance and I was ok with that. His tone seemed to be bullish as well but the team ended up at 28 as a starting point. I personally don’t think they finish here but in my mind this is the right realm for preseason rankings. I think the team has a lot to prove. How fast can the rookies get up to speed, can the 2nd year players make the jump (coaching, player development), can DB come back to form from the injury, etc… -
If you are an athlete or former athlete (myself? Cornhole 2021-present; Disc Golf 2013-got a mega blister and had to retire; speed walking--every black Friday at Walmart 2003-2009) you know what it is to lose confidence. Self-inflicted or not (in my view, a lot of 2023 was coaching and a lot of 2024 was confidence), he has confidence now. How fragile is it? I think the light is on, the game slowed down, and he is ready to do his thing. He seems to be "mobile in the pocket" instead of "running scared." Last year, there were times when AT was out, Johnson gone, and all he really had was XL and Coker--a raw rookie with upside and an UDFA rookie. TE was rarely a viable option. It reminded me of Benjamin and Funchess. Moore had to step up. This season, Bryce has weapons. I expect XL to improve. I expect TMac to help tremendously, and I think Coker will be solid. Renfrow? Horn? bonuses.
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The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
MHS831 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
His points are valid. However, it seems a bit based on past performance and fails to take into consideration trends and conditions that might suggest growth in 2025. For one, he breaks the team down by position and ranks them separately. I guess that is a fair way to do it, but they are dependent upon each other. Last year, our DL sucked. That impacts the rest of the defense. With no internal pressure, the QBs simply step up to avoid the Edge rush. I would have suggested that the internal DL is now featuring pass rushers and large people who can collapse the pocket. Secondly, the LBs were not protected very well in 2024. It is hard to see the holes and step up when a guard is in your earhole a second after the snap. Finally, the defensive backs will be forced to make fewer tackles and they will be better in pass protection with a new and improved DL. Canales made an interesting comment the other day, and I (from the outside looking in) feel the same way: (paraphrasing) "I have never seen a better group of rookies." I think the biggest concern is the learning curve. How long before these rookies are ready? I am bullish on this team. I think they win 3 of their first 4 and get confident. The get the fans behind them. From there, they win 6 of the remaining 13. If they stay injury free, they have an outside shot at the NFC south. -
The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
Carolina Cajun replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Biiiiiig eyeroll on this. First, Look at historical stats of the most recent historical great DBs. I plucked 3, Revis, Sherman, and Norman (cuzz he was our guy). Combined post age 30, there are TWO pro bowls between those 3 and wanna get this...ZERO seasons with 16 games started. ALL missed time. It is RARE that Corners survive that long in the NFL and its about time we started recognizing this fact. Jaycee is a good bet because it hasnt been anything seriously devastating injury wise, and with his sample size he could and should be an incredible piece for the panthers through age 30. Jaire kinda flops on the other side, hes 28...so hes under 30, but he wants his payday before it comes up, hes also been injury prone lately. Bulk of the contract will be on opposite side of 30. Will both of these guys help us be better in 2026? SURE! No doubt, but the question is, will these guys help us past 2026...not sure. The investment isnt worth the risk, nor would the ROI be anywhere close to worth it. Neither guy is moving us from a 6-8 win team to a 8-10 team, period. My point is we're in this state a 6-8 win team IMO and he projects us as a 4-6 win team. EVEN if we think Jaire or Ramsey will make us a 6-8 win team, it in NO WAY is worth the money or capital to move that much just to suck kinda less. -
Official 2025 NHL Playoffs Thread
PNW_PantherMan replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Hurricanes
I assumed he was retiring but apparently he plans on playing multiple more seasons. Florida is gonna have trouble holding onto everyone. Happens to all teams that have that much success. -
Official 2025 NHL Playoffs Thread
cookinbrak replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Hurricanes
I hate Marchand, but if he became a free agent..... -
Add five minutes Philly scores in the 98th on some bullshit
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Official 2025 NHL Playoffs Thread
PNW_PantherMan replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Hurricanes
Oilers make it a game again and Florida scores almost immediately. It’s crazy how they do that all the time. Such a gut punch. -
The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
Pejorative Miscreant replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Good point. Should have bumped us to 27 for that alone. -
The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
PootieNunu replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
TE says lost N/A, Does he not realize we lost THE Ian Thomas? - Yesterday
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The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
micnificent28 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think he said 26 or higher is possible if we sign say Alexander or Ramsey and shore up the secondary. -
The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview
Carolina Cajun replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I kinda skimmed the video, I do kinda believe 28 is preeeettty low for the panthers, I mean, Basically saying we're the 5th worst team in the league when we were the 8th last year and meanwhile having an upgraded roster (and an easier schedule) almost top to bottom is kinda a meh take. Now us between 22-26, I can see it, but this is a roster with more defensive talent, more offensive depth, and more seasoned coaching, base-line I'd say is for us to essentially stay where we were last year. -
He may be lining up to go to the rams but who knows. I will say tho, adding him would make us a favorite to win the division in my eyes. Each team has decent wr talent but having him, Horn and Mike Jackson as your top 3 corners... would make it extra tough on the other qbs.
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they have to be grooming him to compete for it. I think a few of us were saying the depth at G and need at OT would pull him out there--he is probably at his best at T, but we hope his best is good enough. that is why I would hesitate to draft older players--they can't take 3 years to develop.
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Cam going to smash lol.
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Yeah, I'm not trying to rain on any parades but I'm not gonna let my hopes get too high either.
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That's always going to be the case on a team coming from the bottom, though. We are acting like we have arrived because we have something to look forward to again. It was hard to be optimistic during the Rhule era. I don't disagree with you, but they way I see it is, we have nothing to lose by being happy/optimistic right now. It may be the only enjoyment we get if things DON'T work out. Let the dreamers dream imo.
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We need a lot of of new pieces and rookies to work out. Yeah, there's potential there by it seems like some Panthers fans are acting like we've arrived and we definitely have to prove that on the field. Most of the teams on our schedule are probably looking at the game against us as a game they should win. That's just gonna be the reality until we prove otherwise.
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I'd say they did a good job fixing the o-line. Our running back room on paper looks good to me. WR group is the most exciting we have had in a long while. Thielen said it was the first time since he has been here that he doesn't know who will make the roster and that the floor is raised. Our defense looks very different than last year with a clear focus on stopping the run which was a huge weakness. They can only do so much at once. I think we have plenty to be excited and hopeful about.
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