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We for sure could be a different defense with a stud ILB. And adjacent or sequential picks. While you can usually find a reason to rationalize any gamble, maybe limit yourself. There is still a window for Wilson to be a bad decision. He isn’t in the clear yet.

I think in the modern NFL you need a QB to produce to be successful but I have always grouped yards on the air and ground (and I do this for Bryce too) into how a QB can contribute. As long as your QB is able to move the ball and get first downs the offense will end up successful generally. Fwiw, Bryce seems to be getting more comfortable scrambling lately which is good. Obviously a delicate balance as we don't want him bailing too early but I think that's only happened once I could see (without looking at all-22) so I'm pretty happy there. I just want consistency, heh.

I’m not sure the bend don’t break doesn’t hold the points totals in check, at least. And normally we are not a quick strike threat nor a big threat to break 30. LA we had a pick 6 for example. We had a 3 game stretch where I don’t think we even scored 40 cumulative points. And were 2-1. Bills Jets Packers. I think. If I got that right, I also think it is the only time we won 2 straight. Lol.

I would think it is. Devastating. Torn apart main muscle…. I am not trying to be inflexible or to put him at an elevated risk just wondering where the medical boundaries are compared to 5 or 10 years ago. If they have changed. Generally you need to protect the player from himself.

They lie everyday in everything we do - especially in this day and age. Being analytical and using stats properly is the only way to discern the facts from emotions.

Using "you can won a Super Bowl with an average passing game", is peak. After spending enormous capital and drafting/signing offense HEAVY for a qb taken #1 overall and this is the take. I absolutely do not get the excuses.

Canales wants the timing of the WR and QB to develop, the QB to demonstrate his ability to adjust pre snap and get out of a deep pass with a poor defensive matchup, and building confidence in an offense to play strong fundamental football. When those 3 criteria come together, the Panthers will increase their deep shots.

I'd give him another season.

Wow, OP, you really changed my opinion on drafting a QB in the first. Next season, I promise not to draft a QB in the first round.

NFL football being played outside where football is meant to be played will likely be nothing but a memory before too long. Every new stadium being built is gonna be a dome. Not surprised the Chiefs are moving though. Outside of the area they're moving to the entire KC metro area is a poo hole.

XL has had some good and bad moments, but is improving. Some of the other posters have pointed out the offense, and BY are really making development and success harder.

Play outdoors. Arena football is a different league

Yes definitely TMacs TD the Bucs were anticipating run

One thing in the Panthers favor is that game the Seahawks played in last week. Those types of emotional wins are hard to replicate next week.

You can certainly win a SB with a below average passing game but this isn't really the roster to make that argument because we have gone above and beyond financially to try and elevate this passing game following the 2023 season to the detriment of other areas particularly the defense. If we want to take another step forward to close the season we can't keep laboring to score 20 points and expecting the other team to make mistakes. The Panthers have had only 4 games this season of 30 or more points while the Seahawks have had 8. This is the right matchup at the right time to measure where we're really at.

Merry Christmas. Have a good one!

I think so. People are still conflating winning while Bryce Young is playing, and Bryce Young playing well. Bryce Young still struggles beyond belief to eclipse a lousy 200 yards passing. There simply aren't opportunities through the air for any of the receivers. Coker appears to be the clear #2 man right now and he's only getting one or two decent opportunities a game. If he or a guy like TMac had a real QB they'd have staggering numbers, and I suspect XL would be having a solid season as well. A receiver getting "cold" is a very real thing. Legette gets one or two targets a game. Watch his tape. The dude is getting open.

The game vs rams was louder.

This. We're scheming up deep shots specifically on short down and distance to go when teams are gearing up anticipating the run.

It still happens a lot in strength sports. Its typically a pretty devastating injury.

I can go cherry pick a random team that has little do with anything and make the counter to your argument. No point. You can’t make an argument the pass attack with Bryce isn’t weak and erratic. Stats and eye test prove both. All 3 years. Merry Christmas. Off to church, then some family eating paired with the proper amount of adult beverages as to not make the wife mad, and then Santa Claus work. Until another day. I hope everyone that wants them gets their official Bryce Young pajamas for Christmas (XS).

So you are proving my point, you can win a SB with below average passing game And the panthers currently are near the bottom in terms of contracts for skill position players, are highest paid offensive player is Moton at 44 million which extremely cheap relative to other teams. The eagles have about 5 guys on there offense with bigger contracts than that

Yeah… going back and forth with you is pointless. Presented with actual relevant analytics and its… ”eyes don’t lie” well when you have no idea what you’re watching they do

It’s 2025, not 2000. You can play or you can’t given the state of offense in today’s NFL. It’s all figured out pretty quickly who people are and aren’t. everyone basically channeling their inner Matt Rhule on Bryce Young. I’m telling you, year 4 or 5 he is going to show you! Year 7 would be the worst case scenario. Everyone knows about that magic 7th season.

In theory, you can argue anything. We have a weak and erratic pass attack. It just is what it is. The eye don’t lie. Well it lies once every season. In Atlanta lol