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Dave is not getting the run game going. He’s sticking to his script and not taking advantage of what is being offered to him. They run game never really gets going and when it does he stops it himself not the other team. It’s maddening.

You fight his jets numbers were again he was better with Mccown. Darnold was a cancer all receivers

Robbie fell of cause Darnold started throwing him ducks. Darnold had horrific accuracy. That amount of wide open passes Darnold would miss was other worldly. Again DJ not being as productive goes back to Darnold and Baker being horrific in Carolina. DJ would be perfect for Bryce since he rarely misses the short passes. There were games where DJ would leave close to 200 yards on the field thanks Darnold erratic passing. Tmac will never had DJ yac ability, that was his knock coming out of Arizona. And his catch radius really hasn’t showed up this year.

For whatever reason, it's not working for Rico right now. Our running game in general is not hitting on much lately. If we can get it back on track, I think we win the South.

We have extended drives all season with the run.

Chuba needed more touches today just like Rico. Canales abandons the run game way too quickly.

This is not what they do, man. If you're going to be a bit of a dick you should really read up on PFF. It does not take "a million stats from each player." Each play is scored by an analyst for every player on the field. There is no stat aggregation and no "stats" at all as we think of them. From the site I linked: "Each player is given a grade of -2 to +2 in 0.5 increments on a given play with 0 generally being the average or “expected” grade... Each position has its own grading rubric so our analysts know how to put a grade on the various expectations for a quarterback on a 10-yard pass beyond the sticks or what the range of grades might look like for a frontside offensive tackle down blocking on a “power” play." And who is doing the grading... "PFF employs over 600 full or part-time analysts, but less than 10% of analysts are trained to the level that they can grade plays. Only the top two to three percent of analysts are on the team of “senior analysts” in charge of finalizing each grade after review." And grades vs stats... "We aren’t grading players based on the yardage they rack up or the stats they collect." So... No... PFF is not aggregating "a million stats from each player from an automated tool" at all. This is not what PFF does.

Many have already said it, he gave himself up and refs blew the whistle.

He’s is better when he gets some snaps in practice the week before the game as most are.

Some things can be explained by incompetence but other things make no sense. Random calls from NY to change calls with no explanation. Plays reviewed with the wrong call made the league apologizes for later. While it's difficult to outright rig, it's not difficult to influence outcomes. A few key calls at pivotal times. It's an entertainment business for a reason.

His snap count is that for a reason, he's had one good game this season against the Rams. What's silly is trying too discredit what our 1000 yard back has done this season when our season was in the dumps at 1-4. If we make the playoffs we need both backs and no Chuba shouldn't be starting

They didn’t ignore that running into the kicker flag. They talked about it for what seemed like 10 minutes before someone upstairs must have told him that our player was pushed into the kicker, which he was. Had they called it running into the kicker it would have been another bad call. Brother I was at the game. There was a clear bias against the panthers early in the game. You can thank the fans for getting on their asses to call a clean game. You’re welcome.

Not all penalties are the same, and it’s also about the penalties not called. Tmac gets held on back to back plays both could have extended our drives none are called, meanwhile Evans gets the flag on 2nd and goal which led the bucs to a TD.

Robbie fell off a cliff after 2021 - if Darnold was that bad, he would have gone someplace else to find success. He didn't, because he got paid and decided he didn't care anymore. It didn't matter who was throwing him the ball. As to TMac vs DJ... the tape DOESN'T lie... TMac is a great receiver, too. So was / is DJ. As to your 2 yard whatever argument, if it was that big a difference *it would add up* in YAC/R, unless DJ just sucked on 90% of his receptions (he didn't). The reality is they're both elusive dudes, DJ is definitely moreso and faster, but TMac has a much wider catch radius and ability to bring down balls that DJ wouldn't be able to. In only his first year TMac is only 3 ypg less than DJ's career in Carolina. Both are exceptional receivers, despite TMac only being his first season. As to taking a short pass and going 40 yards, TMac has had two passes that I remember where he took a short pass and went ~40 yards. The passes were beyond 2 yards but they weren't the deep bombs he and Young have really started to develop chemistry on too.

lmao, no one protested Teddy coming here more than me. It’s one of the reasons I also have issues with Bryce Young. Low ceiling players. But Teddy gets a bump for operating in what had to be the most dysfunctional setup in Panther history. Year 1 of Rhule who wasn’t doing NFL basics + COVID. Only issue that O had was putting the ball in the endzone….and we know Rhule wasn’t even letting them practice like a functional NFL team and doing redzone. Between the 20s it was a pretty solid group. Teddy was also efficient. He was what he was. An efficient checkdown QB.

Not to be a dick here, but do you know what an algorithm is? I promise you that is what this is. They take a million stats from each players play from an automated tool (most likely AI at this point) and load all that data into an algorithm that spits out the quantitative data per play which aggregates however they do it to the scores you see.

To be clear I'm not even remotely pro Sam Darnold. But the numbers don't lie. At all. Once he got that contract it was like the Monstars took his talent. It is what it is.

Tet is a 4.5 guy literally no were Will you find 4.6 trying to make poo up.... Besides game speed and shorts speed are two different things..... that "rookie" is also about to win OROTY with a wet noodle throwing him the ball. P.S Jerry Rice Ran a 4.7 Mike Evans had similar speed to Tet as a rookie now hes a 4.8 guy dont see baker complaining

You have 50-60 year old trying to referee alpha males in their prime. Its a recipe for disaster

Henry's got a case of fumbilitis.

Nah if a receiver is productive before and after a specific QB is throwing to him you can’t blame that receiver. I don’t want to go back into the huddle archives but every other week there was all-22 film of Robbie getting wide open and Sam not seeing him or missing the throw.

Their delusions are obviously important to them. It makes them feel superior to paint us as petty mean spirited killjoys whose only mission in life is to slander their hero. Like comic book villains plotting world destruction. Like… fuming? Really? Oh yeah. About ready to explode. Over what? A win? It only makes sense to them.

football is not fixed, They are just bad at a very tough job. people always think things are a conspiracy that can be easily explained by incompetence

Roger that. Thanks guys. Mods please delete thread.

Robbie Anderson's production in 2020 and the drop-off the following year and beyond was entirely due to his approach to his craft. The guy got a new contract fully started drinking his own kool-aid and became an arrogant headcase and basically nuked his career from there. Legitimately I've never seen anything like it so fast. It should be in a book about what not do in the NFL.